permaculture

[Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>]

Killian, 

As you know my main focus has been grass roots community at Pine Ridge and in 
urban settings. But I believe you are incorrect about policy makers not being 
able to make changes. Some of them are aware and ready and they are in a 
better position than a lot of other people because most of us have NO CLUE 
where the water supplies are that would supply a city like Los Angeles, for 
instance. The "water officials" know where the valves are, where the aquifers 
and wells are, where the dams should be laid to capture water and pavement 
torn up so water can soak into the aquifer, etc. These plans have been 
presented at city and county level in LA, for instance, and amongst key 
non-profits and community leaders. The average LA'er, HAS NO CLUE. If they 
happen to have rain barrels (probably about .0000001 percent of the 
population right now), good luck protecting the water from the neighbors. 

Where disaster occurs, there will be people stepping up to the plate at 
bioregional level who know what is going on.  In many cases, those people 
will be blindsided and won't have a clue and will screw up royally. But where 
they are educated, they can save lives and preserve resources so it's worth 
educating them. You can bet I'll want policy makers in my neck of the woods 
educated! 

We brought members of Ministry of Environment Haiti to our grass roots Pine 
Ridge property because we like to mix policy makers in with people's 
movements. It's an interesting energy and does very interesting things in the 
system. Fun and educational to observe....

Best, Cory


--- On Sun, 10/24/10, Killian O'Brien <admin@pri-de.org> wrote:

> From: Killian O'Brien <admin@pri-de.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] official certification
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 6:30 PM
> Paul,
> 
> I'm writing a longer response to Toby, but have to carve a
> Jack-o-Lantern with my little boy. Suffice to say, I am. Or
> am trying. And, there's no one approach, more like a strong
> emphasis. I don't think Toby or Cory are wrong to focus
> where they say we should, but perhaps looking at things from
> within the perspective of the era they have grown up with?
> That there are going to be very large disruptions is, to me,
> no longer in doubt. If the republicans gain the Congress, it
> will be virtually assured because time is so short. Thus,
> the correct tack is away from the power structures for their
> ability to create change in chaotic times will be virtually
> nil. But, there should be people working in those arenas now
> just in case. 
> 
> I've been wrong before, just not about The Perfect Storm.
> So far...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Killian O'Brien
> PRI-De
> admin@pri-de.org
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> 
> killiankob@yahoo.com
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
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> On Behalf Of paul wheaton
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 5:53 PM
> To: permaculture
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] official certification
> 
> I think, Killian, you should take on the task of getting
> the
> permaculture word to those folks that you see as unable to
> afford the
> work that others are providing.
> 
> If everybody spreads the word according to the ways that
> they are
> comfortable with, it should reach a lot of people.
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