permaculture

["Nicholas Roberts, Permaculture.coop" <permaculturecoop@gmail.com>]

Toby, what I find so disturbing about your argument for teaching PDCs
to anyone, is the hermetic nature of your argument. You're ideas might
seem find from the suburbs of Oregon, but from where I sit, its the
kind of technocratic managerialism that pervaded liberalism during the
Vietnam war where agrarian reform and safe hamlets, winning the hearts
and minds was the mission of the enlightened elites.

Maybe you cant think of anything, but maybe you need to get out more.

 Overall, I
>> don' t think a corporation or military can be made any worse for learning
>> permaculture, and I think I personally am engaging in Earth and people care
>> when I teach them, even if their own mission isn't. Institutions like
>> corporations are way ahead of us in thinking up clever ways to screw up the
>> world; we won't make them better at that. But by being exposed to the
>> ecological and ethical basis of permaculture, individuals in the
>> organization will be transformed, and perhaps even the organization itself.
>> I've seen it happen. One at a time; that's how I do it. If that's outside
>> your ethical framework; so be it.