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  • From: kris kaul <kriskaul@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] small attached greenhouses
  • Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:51:38 -0800 (PST)



Point well taken.  I guess what I meant was a shape that would allow more
mass in the same footprint; all the empty space that the circular barrels do
not fill in between each other could have been filled with water for more
heat storage (and release) -

Kris


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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:46:03 +0100
From: georg parlow <g.parlow@gmx.at>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] permaculture Digest, Vol 82, Issue 37
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> brick floor and black water drums to store thermal mass; I'm 
> wondering if anyone has found a better material to store the water 
> in, for example rectangular so there's not as much heat loss between 
> the barrels?

to my understanding you want the thermal mass to 'loose heat' - this 
is what keeps the temperature up in your greenhouse. if heat is just 
stored but not relesed into the surroundings (inside the greenhouse), 
they are no good anyways.

georg




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