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[Dieter Brand <diebrand@yahoo.com>]

Michael,
   
  I don't understand what you are trying to say.  Is it that we don't have a 
  voice anyway, then - why vote? - why express disagreement at massacre 
  repression and genocide? - why boycott goods or the games if we can get
  a bargain from slave labour or some fun from the games? never mind those
  that are being killed or are in prison, I can't do anything anyways!  Who
  cares if I make the right choice?  Nobody is going to notice anyway!
   
  If so, then why bother about healing the soil or about permaculture? Why 
  make an effort to grow food without poison?  What is the point in creating
  a garden for a few years before the next guy is going to drown it in 
pesticides, 
  herbicides and so on.  What difference does our little quarter acre plot 
make 
  when compared to those millions and millions of acres that are 
systematically 
  destroyed by the agrochemical industry?  Who is even going to notice a few
  extra earthworms in our garden?
   
  To feel compassionate about soil and nature while at the same time showing
  indifference at the suffering of our fellow human beings just does not 
square.
   
  Dieter Brand
  Portugal
  

Michael <mike.brian@gmail.com> wrote:
  I don't even know anybody who even cares about the olympics, yet...
enough people do, apparently. To me, boycotting (& voting, I suppose)
seems like the new 'opiate of the masses'. Right now, without realizing
it, someone on this list is boycotting, uh, ... a Paris Hilton concert.
Does it really change anything? I think competition is great, when it
produces something valuable - the winner makes a solution and the losers
gain experience so that they don't even lose. Why don't they get
together and compete about something that matters if they have so much
damn energy.

-- 
Loose bits sink chips.

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [SANET-MG] Advance Sowing / Pasture Cropping workshop
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:54:21 -0400
From: Michael Snow <msnow@VALLEY.NET>
To: SANET-MG@LISTS.IFAS.UFL.EDU

Good morning all,

I've recently be in touch with Bruce Maynard of Australia.  He's
pioneered a method of sowing crops directly into pasture called
Advance Sowing.  He and another Aussie, Colin Seis (Pasture Cropping)
expect to be in the U.S. this summer and is/are available to teach a
2-day workshop here in Maryland, if we can put it together.  This is
really fascinating stuff, involving grazing/mowing/dormancy then
sowing crop (ie a C4 grass or native perennial) directly in.  They
find lower inputs, lower costs, higher diversity, higher profits.

I'd like to make this happen.  The trick for us is the cost of the
workshop - he's asked $450 a participant.  If twenty commit, Mr. Seis
can come as well.  I'm not sure we can swallow the $4500 - $9000
commitment if we can't get that many participants.  Pretty sure,
actually.  So I have a few questions:

is there anyone on this list interested in attending a workshop like
this?
is this, in fact, a very high price for growers and educators?
are there government or other agencies (Rodale, NRCS, Extension) who
does or might be interested in sponsoring an event like this?
is there money out there available to provide assistance or
scholarships?

Below are a few links to offer a little background.  While they face
different conditions (from the east, at least), these are stimulating
ideas.

Thank you in advance - any help is much appreciated!

Mike Snow

Advance Sowing: http://www.watershedlandcare.com.au/downloads/Working%
20With%20Nature%20at%20Willydah.pdf
Pasture Cropping: http://www.watershedlandcare.com.au/downloads/
Pasture%20Cropping%20at%20Winona.pdf
google search: advance sowing, bruce maynard, pasture cropping, colin
seis, lazy farming



Michael Snow

Manager, Ecosystem Farm
The Accokeek Foundation
3400 Bryan Point Road
Accokeek, Maryland  20607
(301) 283-2113 x 23