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[neshura <neshura@gmail.com>]

I looked at masonry stoves, but at $4,000 to $15,000 USD for one of
the lovely and efficient stoves from Tulikivi (tulikivi.com), the
emission-free option really is hard on the pocketbook. Even as an
eco-yuppie, I'd think twice before dropping that kind of cash. The
other options are mainly custom building and installation and kits.

As well, the propensity of American architects to pack in lots of
small rooms into a house in order to tout its resale value, rather
than use a more flexible open floorplan design, makes a radiant
heating stove less effective. One has to circulate the warmed air
through all the rooms or be willing to spend all your time within line
of sight of the stove. Admittedly, heating air rather than people is
moronic at best, but people, unfortunately, have legs and tend to
wander.

If there were a way to get a masonry stove for a reasonable price and
incorporate them into home design up front, I'd consider it a selling
point when looking at a house. It was one of the things I liked about
the prefab Glidehouse -- a large open area heated by a tiny and very
efficient woodstove in the winter and cooled with clerestory windows
and natural airflow in the summer.

The problem, I think, is that there just isn't the market to support
stone and tile stoves in the States right now. Perhaps as gas gets
more expensive people will turn back to wood instead of opening up
more coastlands for exploratory gas drilling...

For anyone interested in this option, check out the Masonry Heater
Associations website for more information. http://www.mha-net.org/


On 2/9/06, Robyn Francis <erda@nor.com.au> wrote:
> The Kachel Ofen also known as Dutch Tile Oven (think this is what some posts
> call Masonry Stove) burn at exceptionally high temperatures (around 2000 deg
> F, or approx 700 deg C) which burns off all creosotes, tars etc, they are
> pollution-free and the most efficient of all combustion stoves. (NB the
> energy efficiency of a combustion stove is directly related to pollution
> emmission - the less efficient, the more pollution it generates)
> I have a friend in South Germany who only needs to fire his stove for 30
> minutes twice a day to keep the house warm (and that¹s with night
> temperatures down to -20degC) The stove was installed in the centre of the
> house and adjoins/heats all rooms on 2 storeys - he has a clothes drying
> cupboard built onto the side of the stove in the bathroom so needs no
> electric dryer.
>
> Robyn
>
>
> On 10/2/06 7:47 AM, "Nanette Echols" <nanettechols@visi.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm curious that wood burning is still acceptable considering the carbon
> > dioxide and global warming issues of today. Does anyone have any thoughts?
> >
> > Clint Popetz wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:17:49PM +0200, mitshell wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Is anybody aware of wood burning stoves/heaters that can be loaded
> >>> with wood once every 24 hours or something there about as opposed to
> >>> the regular fireplaces that need to have wood added every few hours
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> 24 hours is a bit out of reach, I think.  If you know what you are
> >> doing (and I won't claim to, having heated my house with wood for only
> >> two years) you can go to bed and not have to get up in the middle of
> >> the night to feed the beast.
> >>
> >> I feed mine about three times a day in the coldest (-10 F) weather.
> >> You have to get used to sleeping/waking chilly, which I now really
> >> enjoy.
> >>
> >> It's not so much the type of stove I think, but how dry your wood is,
> >> how good the species is, how thick it is, and how much thermal mass an
> >> insulation you have in your house.
> >>
> >> -Clint
> >>
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