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  • From: Shane Perry <rymnel@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] permaculture Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15: wood burning stoves
  • Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:01:31 -0500

They're a bit pricey, but Masonry stoves are designed to burn one intense fire a day and hold the heat. I have heard, though, that you must make sure that you are getting a well designed and put together stove. I know of a guy that spent a good deal of money on his and was disappointed because of the contractor that he used. I believe they work best in smallish dwellings. Check out this link for more info.

http://mha-net.org/msb/

Shane
Charlottesville, VA

mitshell wrote:
Is anybody aware of wood burning stoves/heaters that can be loaded with wood
once every 24 hours or something there about as opposed to the regular fireplaces that need
to have wood added every few hours ?

Thanx for any info
Mitch Schertz
mitshell@netvision.net.il
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1. Re: Tools for terraforming or Earth transformation,
permaculture systems landforms creation (Robyn Francis)
2. Re: Sweden Plans to Be World's First Oil-Free Economy
(John Schinnerer)
3. call for volunteers (marijana@ofis)
4. Where do I pick up my Orchard Kits (Greg)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:38:57 +1100
From: Robyn Francis <erda@nor.com.au>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Tools for terraforming or Earth
transformation, permaculture systems landforms creation
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Pretty scary - the damage one of these could do in 2 minutes.....
Give me a little bulldozer DC4 to DC7 with a good operator any day and even
then I wouldn't look away for more than 30 seconds

Robyn

On 8/2/06 6:48 PM, "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net> wrote:


Tools for terraforming or Earth transformation, permaculture systems landforms
creation
Just what you need - amazing equipment, nice pix:

Giant Earthmovers
Toplist of the world-wide biggest hydraulic mining-machines
http://www.engeltron-x.de/mining-power/ehome.html

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:12:14 -1000
From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Sweden Plans to Be World's First Oil-Free
Economy
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <43EB076E.2030904@eco-living.net>
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Aloha,

Three cheers for them...!
Not that I'm biased just because I have ancestry there... :-)

One issue I think they will hit in a couple decades is use of their
plantation wood for biofuels (and everything else they use it for too of
course). They have got to be getting on to their third rotation (at
least) in lots of their tree plantations and some sustainably/holistic
forestry practitioners predict/suspect that that's about when mass
monoculture plantation forestry will start to collapse.
Finland is likely to have a similar problem in a similar timeframe,
along with any other similar contexts in N. Europe.

Good news that they plan to stick to the no new nukes committment at least.
And they have a Minister of Sustainable Development, imagine that. Hey
W., can we get one of those please? And a Department of Peace too while
you're at it.

If the Swedes can even come reasonably close to this goal, it will set a
high bar for the rest of the industrialized world to aim for. Sweden is
fully a first-world industrial nation with all the mod cons we Yanks
expect and then some - like national health care and national pensions,
whatta concept! And they have a looong cold dark winter too, it's not
like it's easy for them because they're in the tropics or anything like
that.

The Euros are way ahead of the USA on use reduction anyhow - they've got
"first-world" lifestyles plus considerably less deep/chronic poverty and
homelessness and social injustice and so on (and did I mention national
health care??)...and they do it on half the water and one-quarter the
gasoline per capita. Oh, and they've got national health care too.

Maybe it's time to move to one of my ancestral homelands... :-?

cheers,
John S.

Saor Stetler wrote:

Published on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 by the Guardian
<http://www.guardian.co.uk> / UK
Sweden Plans to Be World's First Oil-Free Economy
? 15-year limit set for switch to renewable energy
? Biofuels favoured over further nuclear power
by John Vidal


Sweden is to take the biggest energy step of any advanced western
economy by trying to wean itself off oil completely within 15 years -
without building a new generation of nuclear power stations.

...

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:04:55 +0100
From: "marijana@ofis" <marijana@kneja.hr>
Subject: [permaculture] call for volunteers
To: mebnews@lists.mi2.hr
Cc: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org, euevforum@lists.gen-europe.org
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060209145747.01d9a930@pop.kneja.hr>
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Dear all,
on our web page we have formulars for aplication of volunteers in
beautiful places in Croatia, that are developing permacultural
estates. If you would like to spend time helping to develop
permacultural projects in Croatia or Bosnia, please fill the form on
the web page

http://www.ekosela.org/modules/volonter/

or e-mail me!
the page is still developing, so we don't have pictures from all the
places to volunteer on, and also not translated the text, but, we
would be happy to get some help anyway!
thanx!

Marijana, Croatia
Balkan Ecovillage Network

www.ekosela.org



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 07:20:46 -0700
From: Greg <FarmerGreg@UrbanFarm.org>
Subject: [permaculture] Where do I pick up my Orchard Kits
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Hi,

What is this about??? And where is it at???

At the Urban Farm every year I do a fruit tree education program
where I teach people about what fruit trees grow in the desert and
then they have an opportunity to purchase some. We usually find
homes for about 400 trees. This sounds like it might be an
interesting addition to our education program.

Thanks

Greg


Hello Everyone,

This is a friendly reminder to come pick up your orchard kits tomarrow -
Saturday Feb. 4th - between 10 am and noon at the Red Rock Community Center.
114 Red Rock Road. YOu will want to plant them as soon as possible that day
or the next. The free planting class / demo is being held at 11 am.

See you there!

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602/565-7045
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