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- From: Clint Popetz <clint@cpopetz.com>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] wood burning stoves
- Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:02:09 -0600
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:58:38PM -0500, neshura wrote:
> It's not the CO2 that plagues the wood-based heating route, it's
> everything else -- particulates and gases from incomplete combustion,
> tars and carcinogens from DIY charcoal production, etc. -- summed
> across the home heating requirements of 6 billion people.
>
> Burning a tree is carbon neutral as long as you replace it with another.
>
> It's one of those things where wood burning is great as long as hardly
> anyone is doing it.
...like all things. Why should we reject a technique because 6
billion people doing it would be harmful? What lifestyle choice would
we possibly expect 6 billion people to agree to make? We don't have
to play everyman with our choices. If everyone in my town had a wood
burning stove, I wouldn't get all the free wood I get when folks take
down trees :)
I should clarify that when I talked about not having to get up in the
middle of the night, I meant that I get a really good fire going and
heat the house up, then drop the damper, which activates the catalytic
converter at around 1200+, and go to bed. The fire burns out (no smoldering)
within four hours or so, but the retained heat created keeps the house
reasonable until the morning. I have almost no creosote buildup in 2
years of using the stove (a Vermont Castings) with very good draft,
and you'd be hard pressed to see any smoke coming out my chimney,
except when lighting the stove.
-Clint
>
> On 2/9/06, Nanette Echols <nanettechols@visi.com> wrote:
> > I'm curious that wood burning is still acceptable considering the carbon
> > dioxide and global warming issues of today. Does anyone have any thoughts?
> >
> > Clint Popetz wrote:
> >
> > >On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:17:49PM +0200, mitshell wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Is anybody aware of wood burning stoves/heaters that can be loaded
> > >>with wood once every 24 hours or something there about as opposed to
> > >>the regular fireplaces that need to have wood added every few hours
> > >>?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >24 hours is a bit out of reach, I think. If you know what you are
> > >doing (and I won't claim to, having heated my house with wood for only
> > >two years) you can go to bed and not have to get up in the middle of
> > >the night to feed the beast.
> > >
> > >I feed mine about three times a day in the coldest (-10 F) weather.
> > >You have to get used to sleeping/waking chilly, which I now really
> > >enjoy.
> > >
> > >It's not so much the type of stove I think, but how dry your wood is,
> > >how good the species is, how thick it is, and how much thermal mass an
> > >insulation you have in your house.
> > >
> > > -Clint
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Re: [permaculture] HUGE attachment + Solutions
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Re: [permaculture] HUGE attachment + Solutions,
Niels Corfield, 02/18/2006
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Re: [permaculture] HUGE attachment + Solutions,
John Schinnerer, 02/18/2006
- Re: [permaculture] HUGE attachment + Solutions, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/18/2006
- Re: [permaculture] HUGE attachment + Solutions, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/18/2006
- [permaculture] Permaculture wiki, Graham, 02/18/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Permaculture wiki, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Permaculture wiki, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/19/2006
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Re: [permaculture] HUGE attachment + Solutions,
John Schinnerer, 02/18/2006
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Re: [permaculture] HUGE attachment + Solutions,
Niels Corfield, 02/18/2006
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Re: [permaculture] wood burning stoves,
neshura, 02/09/2006
- Re: [permaculture] wood burning stoves, Clint Popetz, 02/10/2006
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Re: [permaculture] wood burning stoves,
Robyn Francis, 02/09/2006
- Re: [permaculture] wood burning stoves, neshura, 02/10/2006
- Re: [permaculture] wood burning stoves, John Schinnerer, 02/09/2006
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