permaculture

["Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk>]

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Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] PCD course prices


>
> >Yes you can go away and read all the books about permaculture, but
> >this doesn't compare with the 'immersion' that comes from the
> >course, the value of working with others, building community,
> >sharing experiences, working out solutions togther.
>
> And the only way you know of to get that is with paid workshops?  What do
> you suppose the common country folk did before they were blessed with the
> "new invention" of Permaculture? How do you suppose they ever manage now
> without PC workshops?  Workshops are here to Save The Day. Step right up,
> folks.
>
> Really, if permaculture was all that complicated you certainly couldn't
> learn it in two weeks. But it has to sound complicated doesn't it.

I'm wondering why, instead of all these projections, insinuations and
accusations, you don't just get on with sorting out your own PC design
course. Buy (if that's not an anathema to you, in which case I'm sure you
can steal them from some unethical, profit oriented alternative bookshop- or
else get them from the library) Mollison's Designers manual, Dave Holmgren's
'Beyond Sustainability' and  a few other texts (I'd particularly recommend
Patrick Whitefield's new 'Earthcare Manual' if you are in a cool temeperate
area), maybe Fukuoka's 'One Straw Revolution', Chris Alexander's 'Pattern
language', some books on self build, community economics (g LETS Systems,
etc) and a few others, get together with some like minded folk in your area
and work through these as a co-led study group.

When myself and a group of friends wanted to build a compost toilet but
couldn't afford a course, we didn't go on the compost toilet building
discussion list and whinge about it, we bought a couple of cheap books, set
up a workshop weekend and got together and taught ourselves and each other.
And had a great laugh doing it.
http://www.gburnett.unisonplus.net/compostloo/essay/compostbog.htm

If permaculture isn't about self empowerment and taking responsibility then
it's about nothing.


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