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- From: Claude Genest <genest@together.net>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: [permaculture] lower consumption means....
- Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:09:38 -0400
Russ Wrote:
My observation is that many people discount such a society because they take it to imply a reduction in their standard of living or a society characterised by a mild form of deprivation.
Exactly. Furthermore, simply suggesting that we all lower our consumption is itself another form of "easy. quick fix" to a deeper problem....
Perhaps the problem isn't (only and necessarily) our consumption, but ( also) how the consummables are made, packaged, shipped, and disposed of.... I am against having less, but who's against having more for less, better for longer ?
I believe this is where gov't must play a role ( and is the reason I got involved with the Green party) - laws that provide both a carrot and a stick - e.g eco-taxes and polluter pays....
I'm certain that the answers involve working at several scales - the millions of amateurs, the education of the masses, the intervention of gov't., and the redesign of industry...
Claude
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[permaculture] regional diets,
Anne Schwarz, 06/12/2003
- Re: [permaculture] regional diets, John Schinnerer, 06/12/2003
- Re: [permaculture] regional diets, robert waldrop, 06/12/2003
- Re: [permaculture] regional diets, Rick Valley, 06/12/2003
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Re: [permaculture] regional diets,
Russ Grayson, 06/15/2003
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Re: [permaculture] regional diets,
robert waldrop, 06/16/2003
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Re: [permaculture] regional diets,
ERDA Institute, 06/16/2003
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Re: [permaculture] regional diets,
Russ Grayson, 06/16/2003
- [permaculture] lower consumption means...., Claude Genest, 06/17/2003
- Re: [permaculture] technology approaches, John Schinnerer, 06/17/2003
- Re: [permaculture] technology approaches, John Schinnerer, 06/17/2003
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Re: [permaculture] regional diets,
Russ Grayson, 06/16/2003
- Re: [permaculture] Hydrogen, Toby Hemenway, 06/17/2003
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Re: [permaculture] regional diets/urban vs rural,
Toby Hemenway, 06/17/2003
- Re: [permaculture] regional diets/urban vs rural, robert waldrop, 06/18/2003
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Re: [permaculture] regional diets,
ERDA Institute, 06/16/2003
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Re: [permaculture] regional diets,
robert waldrop, 06/16/2003
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