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["keller" <ak.and.ak@on-line.de>]

Good point, case closed.


I did not think of that because for me personally, spam is not a severe
problem. Maybe other people are more severely affected.

I do post to usenet, and I receive spam. On some days there are no spams,
sometimes a few, I would estimate that more than 5 per day is seldom (but I
have never bothered to count them). In most cases, they are recognizable as
spam without opening them, so I just discard them. Sometimes they come in
clusters, there seem to be spamming services that send messages for
different customers at once. That makes them even easier to delete. I just
don't bother about them. Delete them, don't waste time on them, and that was
it.  My inbox is usually empty, so I have only a few mails to deal with, and
put the ones I want to keep into folders. What remains is the spam, and that
is then deleted.

Andreas
----- Original Message -----
From: Loren Davidson <loren@farwalker.com>
To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] alt.permaculture


> At 12:34 AM 1/20/02 +0100, keller wrote:
>
> >The mailman software offers the possibility to connect a newsgroup to the
> >mailing list. It is possible to configure the mailing list in a way that
> >messages from it will automatically be posted into the newsgroup. It is
> >possible to have it only in that direction. That would mean that suddenly
> >all the good discussions of here would also be in the ng, while the flame
> >wars and not so important chats of the ng would stay there. This could
> >inject some new life into the newsgroup, raising the average
interestingnes
> >of discussions there drastically. It would make the discussions of this
list
> >more easily available to people (they would turn up in the google
archive).
>
> It would also make all of our email addresses more easily available to the
> spambots that cruise Usenet.  I refuse to post to Usenet because of this;
> the volume of spam that would follow me making a post - and this was back
> in 1996, before spam became a science - was pretty bad, and I had to go to
> disguising my email address in order to post.  Unfortunately, if I did
that
> here, Mailman wouldn't let me post to *this* list, assuming it's set up so
> that only subscribers can post.
>
> Andreas, I understand your good intent in wanting to make this info
> available to more people.  However, I do not want my posts, with their
> accompanying spam-attractant address, being forwarded to Usenet.
>
> Yes, this info can be extracted from the Web archives by a different
> variety of spambot/crawler.  But the difference between spam going to
> addresses I put out on Usenet and spam arriving because of email addresses
> for me that can be found on the Web is a matter of two orders of magnitude
> at least.
>
> I *would* support regular (weekly or monthly) announcements of the
> existence of this mailing list to alt.permaculture.
>
> Just my $0.02,
>
> Loren
>
> Loren Davidson        Permaculturist, philosopher, writer
> loren@farwalker.com   http://www.earthspring.org/loren/
> AIM: loren334     ICQ: 65291610
> "We have to create the future, or others will do it for us" - Gen. S.
> Ivanova, ret.
>
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