permaculture

[Loren Davidson <loren@farwalker.com>]

At 12:34 AM 1/20/02 +0100, keller wrote:

> The mailman software offers the possibility to connect a newsgroup to the
> mailing list. It is possible to configure the mailing list in a way that
> messages from it will automatically be posted into the newsgroup. It is
> possible to have it only in that direction. That would mean that suddenly
> all the good discussions of here would also be in the ng, while the flame
> wars and not so important chats of the ng would stay there. This could
> inject some new life into the newsgroup, raising the average interestingnes
> of discussions there drastically. It would make the discussions of this list
> more easily available to people (they would turn up in the google archive).

It would also make all of our email addresses more easily available to the 
spambots that cruise Usenet.  I refuse to post to Usenet because of this; 
the volume of spam that would follow me making a post - and this was back 
in 1996, before spam became a science - was pretty bad, and I had to go to 
disguising my email address in order to post.  Unfortunately, if I did that 
here, Mailman wouldn't let me post to *this* list, assuming it's set up so 
that only subscribers can post.

Andreas, I understand your good intent in wanting to make this info 
available to more people.  However, I do not want my posts, with their 
accompanying spam-attractant address, being forwarded to Usenet.

Yes, this info can be extracted from the Web archives by a different 
variety of spambot/crawler.  But the difference between spam going to 
addresses I put out on Usenet and spam arriving because of email addresses 
for me that can be found on the Web is a matter of two orders of magnitude 
at least.

I *would* support regular (weekly or monthly) announcements of the 
existence of this mailing list to alt.permaculture.

Just my $0.02,

Loren

Loren Davidson        Permaculturist, philosopher, writer
loren@farwalker.com   http://www.earthspring.org/loren/
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"We have to create the future, or others will do it for us" - Gen. S. 
Ivanova, ret.