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- From: Anton Callaway <marillen@earthlink.net>
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- Subject: Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting
- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 08:38:17 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Nectarines are not a cross between two species. They are peaches, with a
simple recessive trait that eliminates the fuzz on the fruit. Plant a dozen
seed from a self-pollinated 'Peregrine' peach (which is heterozygous for this
allele) and you will see for yourself.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
>Sent: Nov 15, 2012 6:08 PM
>To: nafex mailing list at ibiblio <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting
>
>
>On Nov 15, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Sarah Kehler Ewing wrote:
>
>>
>> And as an aside: would someone please inbox me (no need to tie up the
>> list for my giggles) the Bible reference(s) about grafting? I'm a
>> Christian and an avid grafter and I've never come across this before!
>>
>>
>> Sarah
>
>I think it is relevant enough to the broader conversation that I am writing
>this to the list. I hope folks don't mind.
>
>I was surprised to find that there is no explicit Biblical prohibition of
>grafting, since I was taught in Hebrew school that it was forbidden. In
>fact, there are several Biblical references that suggest farmers were
>growing grafted grapes and other fruits. There is, however, a biblical
>injunction against mixing two kinds of plants:
>
>Lev 19:19 "Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender
>with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither
>shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee."
>
>Deut 22:9 "Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds: lest the fruit
>of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled."
>
>However, the Talmud (the Jewish compilation of "oral law", explaining and
>expanding on the written law in the Torah) does contain an explicit ban on
>grafting different species together. I wasn't able to find a good primary
>translation of that on-line (probably because of the complexity of the
>Talmud) but this is a good, readable reference that discusses the various
>prohibitions on "mixing" in plain English.
>
>http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0014_0_14019.html
>
>I had thought all grafting was forbidden, but this suggests that grafting an
>apple to another apple would be biblically acceptable. It also suggests that
>nectarines are forbidden, being a cross between two different species. Sort
>of "bestiality for plants".
>
>I've written all this from an Old-Testament/Jewish perspective. In
>researching this on line (google is my friend) I also found some New
>Testament that seem to assume grafting of olives was commonplace (and okay),
>for instance Romans 11:17.
>
>I also came across an interesting article about grafting that includes quite
>a lot of history and references to grafting in the ancient world.
>
>http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/janick-papers/c09.pdf
>
>Hope you find that interesting.
>
>Ginda Fisher
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Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting
, (continued)
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Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting,
Douglas Hinds, 11/15/2012
- Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting, Road's End Farm, 11/15/2012
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Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting,
Douglas Hinds, 11/18/2012
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Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 11/18/2012
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Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting,
Douglas Hinds, 11/18/2012
- Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 11/18/2012
- Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting, Charles Rhora, 11/19/2012
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Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting,
Douglas Hinds, 11/18/2012
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Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 11/18/2012
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Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting,
Douglas Hinds, 11/15/2012
- Re: [nafex] the evils of grafting, Sarah Kehler Ewing, 11/15/2012
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