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- From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
- To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum problems in The South
- Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:13:27 -0500
At 11:27 AM 8/9/2007, Donna wrote:
You sent me a graft of "Guthrie" which died, but the rootstock lived.Yep, if I sent you a Guthrie, it was on KY-native P.angustifolia
I'm pretty sure I put it with the pots I saved from the drought. So that
will be Chickasaw.
I take it if you'd just planted some seeds fromPaul Zmoda sent me scions of Guthrie several years ago. I've since seen it offered at a couple of Southern nurseries, like Just Fruits & Exotics:
'Guthrie' you'd have the genes and probably a lot of the same behavior as
the parent. I'm assuming it did well enough for someone else to name it and
pass it on to you.
GUTHRIE An improved Chickasaw plum that doesn't sucker and is highly disease resistant. This new variety is yellow-skinned with a tangy, sweet yellow flesh. Fruit is 1 1/2 inches across and makes a fabulous jelly. A good choice for growers who have problems with pollination. Ripens mid-June. Zones 8-9.
I've seen at least one webpage that alluded to the possibility that Guthrie *might* be a hybrid, with some Japanese plum ancestry.
I've got a couple of small 'Guthrie' plants on their own roots - I had some dormant-collected scionwood, 2-3 years back, that was beginning to bloom in the fridge, and I just stuck them in the ground under the shade of the kiwi arbor. Seems like Paul told me that it's not difficult to root.
Were these other varieties other species? And whatI'm down to one beach plum, and yes, they were seedlings from OIKOS. Next door neighbors put in some sort of mounded septic system a year or two back and in the process, significantly altered drainage/seepage, such that one of my beach plums - the more dwarf and most productive one - has declined, and when I looked at it a week or so ago, it's completely dead.
about the beach plums you had? They'd be seedlings I think.
I don't know what species my native trees are. I collected them locallyYou know, other than some row-run seedlings I bought from Henry Fields a few years back and lined out in the nursery bed, I've never even seen P.americana. Every wild plum I've ever encountered was P.angustifolia.
and had assumed they were P. americana.
Are you losing the trees, or losing the fruit and if so, to what? LateI think the Euro plums I put on P.angustifolia are still alive, but after many years of no blossoms(like the Green Gage(purchased from Miller Nurseries) that still hasn't blossomed significantly or set any fruit after 12 years in-ground), I just let the Chickasaw shoots take over.
frosts, curculio, brown rot or all three?
Late frosts? No, just the regular winter/spring frosts are usually enough to ensure no fruit on the remaining Japanese hybrids(wait - those were from TyTy, so who know what they really are?!)
On the rare occasions when the pluots &/or plums have managed to set a few fruits, brown rot has taken virtually all of them.
I won't say I've never had brown rot on any of the Chickasaws, but it's not a huge problem, and I don't know that I've ever seen it on the beach plums.
Lucky
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Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 55, Issue 14,
rmelrose, 08/08/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 55, Issue 14,
Lucky Pittman, 08/08/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 55, Issue 14, Lucky Pittman, 08/08/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Plum problems in the south,
Donna &/or Kieran, 08/09/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Plum problems in The South,
Lucky Pittman, 08/10/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Plum problems in The South, h black, 08/10/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Plum problems in The South, Donna &/or Kieran, 08/10/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Plum problems in The South,
Lucky Pittman, 08/10/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Ozark premier plum, Donna &/or Kieran, 08/09/2007
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- [NAFEX] Bali as rootstock?, rmelrose, 08/08/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 55, Issue 14,
Lucky Pittman, 08/08/2007
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[NAFEX] Evans Cherry, grafting, ripening, harvesting,
Del Stubbs, 08/09/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Evans Cherry, grafting, ripening, harvesting, Brungardt, Sam, 08/09/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Evans Cherry, grafting, ripening, harvesting, Donna &/or Kieran, 08/09/2007
- [NAFEX] Fossilized midges show sudden climate changes, Donna &/or Kieran, 08/09/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Short chilly summer for Britain, Donna &/or Kieran, 08/09/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] travel to Clemson, Donna &/or Kieran, 08/09/2007
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