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- From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
- To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines
- Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:57:38 -0700
Depending on the family size and location, food expenses often equal or
exceed transportation expenses. If you include sundries (soaps, household
items) then groceries become the second biggest expense after housing. I
garden both for fresh produce and to keep our food costs manageable.
Years back I rented my home and very large garden. The property was sold
and the new owner tilled under my garden and destroyed some orchard trees.
It was financially devastating; our grocery expenses tripled.
As far as Joe Consumer, maybe he doesn't care about flavor and variety; but
somebody's (Fred consumer? Jane?) spending an awful lot of time and money
at our local farmers' markets getting fresh, flavorful, and less expensive
produce.
~ Stephen
CA Central Valley
-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark & Helen
Angermayer
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:54 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines
I think Tom hit it. Food is too cheap. Isn't it strange we spend more on
housing or transportation than food? I suspect most hobbyists who
garden/grow fruit like it for it's own sake.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Olenio" <>
To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines
> Hi,
>
> Hi,
>
> Well... I bet people are just getting further away from the land, farming
> and gardening all the time, due to changes in society and demands of time
> and work.
>
> There is little time being made for things they can buy for pennies, nor
> little knowledge that better varieties exist outside the supermarket, that
> do not meet the demands of market farming.
>
> Let's face it... The most delicious fruit/nut in the world will never be
> tasted by the masses unless; it can be picked green, ships well, stores
> well, has perfect eye appeal, and can be grown with little
cost/maintenance.
>
>
> Your average "Joe consumer" has no knowledge of these considerations, or
> that they can produce better fruits/nuts themselves.
>
> This shift does not diminish the importance of NAFEX and similar groups;
it
> simply makes them more important. Much like the crop gene banks; the
masses
> never think about them, but they are critical to biodiversity and
improving
> crops.
>
> Later,
> Tom
>
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Michael Nave, 07/01/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Thomas Olenio, 07/01/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines, vrana, 07/01/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Mark & Helen Angermayer, 07/01/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Michael Nave, 07/01/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Donna &/or Kieran, 07/03/2007
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[NAFEX] Rhubarb,
Dylan Ford, 07/03/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Rhubarb, road's end farm, 07/03/2007
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[NAFEX] Rhubarb,
Dylan Ford, 07/03/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Donna &/or Kieran, 07/03/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Stephen Sadler, 07/03/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Mark & Helen Angermayer, 07/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] food prices, was "NNGA membership declines",
tanis grif, 07/04/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] food prices, was "NNGA membership declines", Michael Nave, 07/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] food prices,
Stephen Sadler, 07/06/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] food prices, road's end farm, 07/06/2007
- [NAFEX] Where are you located?, Erdman, James, 07/06/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] food prices, Stephen Sadler, 07/06/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] food prices, Michael Nave, 07/06/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] food prices, was "NNGA membership declines",
tanis grif, 07/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] price of food,
Thomas Olenio, 07/04/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] price of food, Mark & Helen Angermayer, 07/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Mark & Helen Angermayer, 07/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Michael Nave, 07/01/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines,
Thomas Olenio, 07/01/2007
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