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["vrana" <nokal@seznam.cz>]

OK, my father was gardener and he after the war borowed gardening full of
various fruit .I was here like in paradise.But life was hard and komunists
took by power all privat property.They alowed to continue works only for
vegetable and gains to government.Later all was destroyed. I missed it so I
made time to creat it for family  myselves.I studied literature and came to
many interesting fruits which I would like to get but nowboady ofered it.I
had all ways no money so I had to create it from seeds.Fruit was very good
,I wander why people dont like it, Now I understand. We was near the river,
everyboady was catching fishes, so I learned it also. It returns people to
nature and loving nature.Now I was with son in law at lake he catch twoo
karps and fell in love in fishing.Maybe ones he will love fruit also.Of
course I have hikories various sorts of my seedlings and hazelnuts. Its
enough for us so I dont plant pekans and other.The weather is very dry, it
is necessary to water all plants.In my garden all growes like in wild,
I somethime cut something and plant another. Actinidias are extreemely tasty
with various exotic flavour.Hazelnuts are not bearing each year it probably
need calcium or ashes.Various loniceras some very tasty. I was showing it on
international symposiums, the specialists did not know it at all.Now there
is in every research society.Nature in Russia and China will be good
resource of various fruits for many years forward.Maybe also south amerika
fruits growing in high mountines?   excuse me mistakes, Jan, Czecxh Rep.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Olenio" <tolenio@sentex.net>
To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines


> Hi,
>
> Hi,
>
> Well...  I bet people are just getting further away from the land, farming
> and gardening all the time, due to changes in society and demands of time
> and work.
>
> There is little time being made for things they can buy for pennies, nor
> little knowledge that better varieties exist outside the supermarket, that
> do not meet the demands of market farming.
>
> Let's face it...  The most delicious fruit/nut in the world will never be
> tasted by the masses unless; it can be picked green, ships well, stores
> well, has perfect eye appeal, and can be grown with little
cost/maintenance.
>
>
> Your average "Joe consumer" has no knowledge of these considerations, or
> that they can produce better fruits/nuts themselves.
>
> This shift does not diminish the importance of NAFEX and similar groups;
it
> simply makes them more important.  Much like the crop gene banks; the
masses
> never think about them, but they are critical to biodiversity and
improving
> crops.
>
> Later,
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Michael Nave
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:19 AM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] NNGA membership declines
>
> I've been an NNGA member for about 16 years. My
> impression is that the older folks are dying off, and
> more importantly, not being replaced by younger folks.
> Interest in nut trees definitely seems to be in a
> decline in the US right now. Membership in the
> American Chestnut Foundation has increased but I think
> many of the ACF members are not active nut growers
> anyway. They like the romance of the story of the
> American chestnut and the attempts to bring it back.
>
> It's not that there are other ways to meet kindred
> souls. There simply aren't that many kindred souls to
> meet. Oddly, there are probably more chestnut and
> pecan growers now than there have been in many years,
> but many of them really aren't interested in nut trees
> as a discussion topic. They are simply interested in
> growing nut trees as a way to make money. Many newer
> chestnut growers in the west for example just plant
> orchards of Colossal chestnuts as a way to make an
> easy buck. They actually know nothing about chestnuts
> and have no interest in discussing chestnuts unless
> the discussion involves a way to make more money. They
> have no love of nut trees at all.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> --- Donna &/or Kieran <holycow@cookeville.com> wrote:
>
> > I guess you can tell business is slow for me today.
> > I finally joined NNGA
> > last year and finally got our address problem
> > corrected so got my long
> > awaited and long anticipated first NUTSHELL.  What a
> > disappointment, very
> > thin reading.  Then I read that their membership has
> > declined to only 600,
> > only about 1/4 of what it has been in the past.
> > Anyone know why?  I assume
> > it's the old guys dying off.  Could it be that the
> > internet and things like
> > Gardenweb as another way to meet kindred souls have
> > added to the decline?
> > I do find that the antique rose group contains
> > knowlegeable people, but
> > other forums tend to involve a lot of very naive
> > beginners.
> >     I am concerned because I had assumed that I'd be
> > able to track down some
> > old friend of Cecil Farris who would have his hazels
> > in their backyard.  ( I
> > do hear that Corvallis has his stuff)  Also I want
> > to find the info on Fox
> > and Davis shagbarks, which was compatible with
> > mockernut, which with pignut,
> > so I'd know which one I have and try the other one
> > again.( I do try to keep
> > decent notes on what I do and decent labels, but
> > failed on these)   Lucky
> > says I didn't get them from him and they're not on
> > his list of what Ted
> > Danieki has, so I have no idea who I ordered them
> > from some 9-10 years ago.
> > I know there is a big overlap of membership between
> > the 2 organizations, so
> > maybe you all know something about what has been
> > happening with them.
> > Donna
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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