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  • From: "Mike Dillard" <DILLARDM@mustang.k12.ok.us>
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  • Subject: Re: [MSAR] NASAR standards [PMX:#]
  • Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:10:25 -0500

Sorry if that sounded so terse. I am only trying to get all of us beyond
the trivial and on the end product, a "Universal training and
organizational Standard." Why? Because it is not about "us." It is about
the suffering and pain of those we desire to assist. We are all
humanitarians, many volunteering our time and resources to be there when
tragedy strikes, natural or manmade. We serve so that others may live.
Isnt that what we are about?
Think on the magnitude of this project. Every SAR personnel in the
country, "standardized." No matter who, what, when, where, how... the
appropriate agencies personnel will be melded into an efficient,
functioning coordinated component to get the job done, reducing loss of
life and property damage in a disaster. WOW! Every agency from the
Military to the FBI, CIA, DEA, DoD, CAP, State Emergency Management
Teams, Local Sherif's Dept., Police Units, etc, etc, etc., all on the
same page.... IMPRESSIVE!
So, you want to call me a dreamer, go ahead. If it werent for dreamers,
we would still be speaking the Queens English.
Happy Trails and stay Mounted....
M. Dillard

>>> DILLARDM"@mustang.k12.ok.us 10/20/03 01:04PM >>>
Because our Nations' States' Emergency Management Officials have
recognized NASAR as that standard. As for my state, Oklahoma's State
Emergency Management and DoD i.e. Homeland Security Officials have
established this as the recognized standard. Civil Air Patrol which is
an arm of the Air Force, and under DoD hierarchy in the establishment
of
Homeland Defense, which obviously includes all facets of ES, has made
that distinction.
Rather than argue the futile point of who gets to be the authority, we
need to be finishing up the program so all interested ES personnel can
access this standardization to assist them in organizing our
individual
groups.
If you have spent as much time on this project as many of you have,
including myself, I can only say thank you for your effort to put us
all
on the same page for training and organization.
Thank you NASAR and committee members.

Mike Dillard, Capt., CAP
Emergency Services Officer
Mounted SAR Commander

>>> una@lanl.gov 10/20/03 12:47PM >>>
Suzanne Anderson wrote:
>some folks might be missing the point I believe Jorene is trying to
>make here:
[...]
>one may still find value in using the [NASAR] standards that have
>been (and are being) written as a MODEL for one's own organization
>and situation.

I think we all do get the point Jorene is trying to make. Really!

But why should any agency credit NASAR as the model for their own
standard? NASAR's standard will itself be modeled on pre-existing
MSAR standards. The primary reason I see for advocating any NASAR
standard as a model is that somehow NASAR may be perceived as a
primary source of authority. But I think this serves more to lend
NASAR authority, than to borrow authority from NASAR.


>You COULD, however, point out that your own team's standards are
largely
>(or loosely) based on NASAR standard XYZ, to provide a point of
reference
>to your audience (th agency that would call you out).

Were I to adopt such a standard, I might point out how it is or is
not similar to other standards, perhaps including NASAR standard XYZ.
Would I describe such a standard as "based on" NASAR standard XYZ?
No, because that is unlikely to be true. Any future standard for
MSAR is unlikely to differ much from the better standards that are
already in use.

Una Smith
Santa Fe County Sheriff's Posse, in New Mexico
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