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  • From: "Michaele Blakely" <mjb AT premier1.net>
  • To: <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Why I can't believe a word out of Dennis Avery's mouth
  • Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:07:17 -0800

Thank you, I was racking my brain last night and was too tired to dig out
examples and names. There is a lot of good science out there to combat what
you are saying. Science that is not intreperted, but just facts.

There is science out there, and Avery's conclusions come from distorted
interpretations of the science. A syllogism rather like "Midnight is a
black cat, all cats can see in the dark, therefore Midnight can see in the
dark." Except Midnight is blind.

Well, all I wanted to do was put food for thought out there. Avery is a man
that raises my hackles so fast because he is articulate, smooth talking and
convincing until you start dissecting what he is saying. Put that together
with media sensationalsism and it is just sad.

Let's not forget who funds Avery as well.....

Michaele
Growing Things
Carnation Wa


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alliums" <garlicgrower AT earthlink.net>
To: <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:20 AM
Subject: [Market-farming] Why I can't believe a word out of Dennis Avery's
mouth


> Rick Williams wrote:
>
>
> >In order to criticize someone like Avery, you need to give some examples
of
> >where he is wrong. I think you would find it difficult to do that.
>
> Um, Rick, when did you join the list? I published my article on Dennis
> Avery and Rebecca Goldberg debating GMOs at the Food & Farming Conference
> in December, 2000. It's rather infamous, because although it showed that
> Dennis Avery had *no* understanding of what organics was all about and
> could quote no reputable studies to back up any of his arguements, the
> original owner of this list was so angry that he suspended the entire
> listserve and Liz had to find another organization to host the list.
>
> Dr. Bill Liebhardt of the University of California at Davis was so angry
at
> Avery's inability to use science to back up his tirades that he later did
a
> review comparing conventional and organic yields over the past 20 years. I
> don't have the URL, but he's not hard to find and I believe the study he
> did was widely published -- I know I saw it in several different
publications.
>
> If Liz doesn't have my original article in the archives, I'd be happy to
> e-mail you a copy. I am often hired to write articles for events like
this
> and I try to reproduce what goes on at these talks as accurately as
> possible. I knew very little about Avery before the 2000 Food & Farming
> Conference, but after hearing him speak at this conference, I have no
> respect for the man at all.
>
>
> Dorene Pasekoff, Coordinator
> St. John's United Church of Christ Organic Community Garden
>
> A mission of
> St. John's United Church of Christ, 315 Gay Street, Phoenixville, PA
19460
>
>
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