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["Dave Pentecost" <dave.pentecost AT gmail.com>]

I'm still a little confused by this. Jameson Lopp, in another thread,
said that ibiblio uses shared hosting. The demo site alone now has
several hundred blogs. How does this jive with the recommendation to
use shared hosting only for a few dozen blogs? And under what
conditions can you have 200,000 blogs, as the main page of Lyceum
indicates?

Are the performance limitations of Lyceum actually known or are we
guessing at this point? Are we limited by the fact that Wordpress (and
every instance of a Wordpress blog) generates each page on the fly
through PHP?

Jameson also speculated that the bug I reported on the demo
installation (bad users page) may be a scalability issue. Has the demo
install reached its limit? Since scalability is at the heart (and the
promise) of using Lyceum, what do we really know?

Sorry to be a pain on this, but these are questions anyone should ask
if they think their Lyceum installation will grow. You can't get 500
users and then tell them, oh sorry, it's not working anymore.

Dave



On 7/9/06, John Joseph Bachir <jjb AT ibiblio.org> wrote:
> dave and serena-
>
> be warry of running a big lyceum installation on a shared hosting plan.
> lyceum is powerful because it makes running a lot of blogs easy to manage
> and set up, it doesn't magically make 30 blogs run as if they were 1 blog
> :) a 300 blog lyceum site will put the same load on a server as 300
> average single blogs would. would your shared hosing site be okay with you
> running 300 (or however many) blogs on it? if so then you are okay.
> remember that oyu migiht be running only 15 this month, but before you
> know it in 10 months you might be running 120 and things will be slowing
> down and you might be getting complaints from your hosting provider.
>
> That said, for folks who want to put up some blogs for themselves and some
> friends and don't anticipate hosting more than a few dozen blogs in the
> long term, lyceum on shared hosting is a great solution.
>
> technical things to look at: you need php and mysql 4 (i can't remember
> the exact versions, check the documentation). if you can find a place with
> php and mysql 5, even better.
>
> by default lyceum uses innodb mysql tables, so if possible find a host
> which supports those (many don't, incliding dreamhost until a few months
> ago).
>
> dave- your own server would be a great place to host lyceum. os x server
> will run it just fine. i don't know what versions of php and mysql come
> with os x server these days, but you can always install your own. i can
> help you with this if need be (btw i live in ny now so i'm just down the
> road).
>
> let me know if you guys have any more questions.
>
> john
>
>
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2006, Serena K wrote:
>
> > I'm planning to migrate the blogs I'm hosting from another blog software to 
> Lyceum in the very near future. Currently I have a little over 30 blogs running. 
> I host my sites with Dreamhost and never had any problems.
> >
> > Serena K
> >
> >
> > Dave Pentecost <dave.pentecost AT gmail.com> wrote: Hi Folks
> >
> > Does anyone have any recommendations/warnings about hosting services for 
> Lyceum?
> >
> > I have just registered a domain on GoDaddy and I am considering a
> > number of options:
> >
> > GoDaddy itself
> > My current host (a web admin pal who has been great over the years but
> > may be over-committed)
> > Our own server (which we do not have yet, but are considering an Xserve)
> >
> > You should know that this will be used for a non-profit girls club as
> > we enter a science/tech education phase. Starting to work with it on
> > our own server, including headaches and learning curve, would be part
> > of the tech girls process. And we are an all-OS X operation.
> >
> > We are currently running two Wordpress blogs and two MT blogs with our
> > web pal, with no problems. But I worry about starting up another
> > 50-100 blogs on his server.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
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