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  • From: "John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>
  • To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Why industrial farming may be the most INefficient farming method
  • Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 22:25:43 -0000

It is just with these two links that I have some problem Paul. I fear they are cruelly over optimistic.
We already spoke about how much run in time is needed before you can realistically expect to be able to live of a piece of land by growing crops.
But further let's just look around us and at the diseased and medicated masses. I can not imagine that even a small part of those will be able to do anything useful for themselves except maybe kill off those of us who can grow food.
Also in the Middle ages the earth was still mostly pristine and fertile and without persistent environmental toxins and radioactive contamination. And the population was much smaller. And even then there were famines.

I feel quite pessimistic about "going over the cliff". We are not going to land very softly and just pick ourselves up I'm afraid.
I think it likely we are already in freefall and from time to time as I tumble as in a dream I can see glimpses of sharp rocks at the bottom.
John

The World After Industrial Civilization Goes, Usher in the "new" economics of local self-sufficiency
http://www.culturechange.org/cms/content/view/785/1/

We will go kicking and screaming down the path to the new Middle Ages as fossil fuels desert us
http://sunweber.blogspot.com/2011/05/new-middle-ages.html

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On 3/28/2014 6:22 AM, Dan Conine wrote:
New Scientist had an article last week about Evolutionary Traps: where a species adapts to something that is killing it.

Humanity has adapted to perpetual growth and perpetually lowering prices (Consumerism as religion, action and addiction).
The stories say that a raccoon will stick its hand into a jar if it sees a shiny object, but won't let go of the shiny rock to get its hand out of the jar. The more clever the raccoon, the more places it can find jars to reach into, but they just don't let go. Humanity isn't really any smarter. We just write more stories about ourselves and turn the idiotic behavior into a tragedy or a comedy.

As a general rule, the people who have enough money to buy good food will buy the most convenient good food, and the people without enough money are forced to buy what they can get, and few are lucky (or unlucky..;) enough to have access to the resources for producing their own. The System of systems works very hard to convince people they have to buy everything they need using money.
The money flows uphill to the people who manipulate the money, and the violence flows downhill from them to keep it that way.

The rest is timing and circumstance unless one is locked out of the mechanism or leaves it, but most of the coming and going is manipulated by the Economic Hit Men who buy and sell countries in accordance with the money's wishes.

The two dominant species on the planet are cars and banks. People are just the raccoons that scavenge for food among them, trying not to get run over. If we're very lucky, there will be enough of us building nests in the machinery that it stops from the corrosion or collapses under its own weight.

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