Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>]

It is just with these two links that I have some problem Paul. I fear they 
are cruelly over optimistic.
We already spoke about how much run in time is needed before you can 
realistically expect to be able to live of a piece of land by growing crops.
But further let's just look around us and at the diseased and medicated 
masses. I can not imagine that even a small part of those will be able to do 
anything useful for themselves except maybe kill off those of us who can 
grow food.
Also in the Middle ages the earth was still mostly pristine and fertile and 
without persistent environmental toxins and radioactive contamination. And 
the population was much smaller. And even then there were famines.

I feel quite pessimistic about "going over the cliff". We are not going to 
land very softly and just pick ourselves up I'm afraid.
I think it likely we are already in freefall and from time to time as I 
tumble as in a dream I can see glimpses of sharp rocks at the bottom.
John

> The World After Industrial Civilization Goes, Usher in the "new" economics 
> of local self-sufficiency
> http://www.culturechange.org/cms/content/view/785/1/
>
> We will go kicking and screaming down the path to the new Middle Ages as 
> fossil fuels desert us
> http://sunweber.blogspot.com/2011/05/new-middle-ages.html
>
> ----------------
>
> On 3/28/2014 6:22 AM, Dan Conine wrote:
> > New Scientist had an article last week about Evolutionary Traps: where a 
> > species adapts to something that is killing it.
> >
> > Humanity has adapted to perpetual growth and perpetually lowering prices 
> > (Consumerism as religion, action and addiction).
> > The stories say that a raccoon will stick its hand into a jar if it sees 
> > a shiny object, but won't let go of the shiny rock to get its hand out of 
> > the jar. The more clever the raccoon, the more places it can find jars to 
> > reach into, but they just don't let go. Humanity isn't really any 
> > smarter. We just write more stories about ourselves and turn the idiotic 
> > behavior into a tragedy or a comedy.
> >
> > As a general rule, the people who have enough money to buy good food will 
> > buy the most convenient good food, and the people without enough money 
> > are forced to buy what they can get, and few are lucky (or unlucky..;) 
> > enough to have access to the resources for producing their own. The 
> > System of systems works very hard to convince people they have to buy 
> > everything they need using money.
> > The money flows uphill to the people who manipulate the money, and the 
> > violence flows downhill from them to keep it that way.
> >
> > The rest is timing and circumstance unless one is locked out of the 
> > mechanism or leaves it, but most of the coming and going is manipulated 
> > by the Economic Hit Men who buy and sell countries in accordance with the 
> > money's wishes.
> >
> > The two dominant species on the planet are cars and banks. People are 
> > just the raccoons that scavenge for food among them, trying not to get 
> > run over. If we're very lucky, there will be enough of us building nests 
> > in the machinery that it stops from the corrosion or collapses under its 
> > own weight.
>
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