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  • From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Cities of Light
  • Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:53:45 -0700


I shouldn't try to answer that but I will anyway ;-) When people face much
worse than they face now, they'll make changes or do without. Most people
rather like to eat. But then I gave up on saving the world before I was 20.

What we term "local food security" doesn't mean everybody has to grow. People
have different skills and resources, and that's what makes a community work.
My biggest concerns are for the sick, the disabled and those who try but
can't make ends meet with others depending on them. Some should move to
cheaper areas by any means necessary and quit trying to protect credit
ratings. Those who cannot pay back student loans should get to another
country fast.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 12/27/2010 at 6:25 PM Andeanfx wrote:

>My-OH-My. I was talking to a youngish nurse who literally stunk of
>cigarette smoke and told her vitamin B-3 aka nicotinic acid, I believe, is
>the mirror image of nicotine and can often curb the desire for a smoke.
>She
>was nice but let me know she did not want the desire curbed. She enjoyed
>it, her entire family smoked they each enjoyed and they enjoyed smoking
>together.
>
>If one has 100 people (easy for % calculations). Take out those who don't
>want to change. That is a bunch. Take out those who cannot be "assured
>enough" of their success which I would not be much good at giving because
>there is a pretty darn steep learning curve. Got rid of another bunch.
>Take out those that don't make the learning curve. Take out those who are
>unwilling to unlearn what they have been taught. Take out those that
>don't
>have a clue as to what has been done to typical garden space of the world
>by
>tilling, chemical fertilizers, hard water and above ground irrigation.
>Don't forget those who are working extra jobs just to keep ahead of the
>bill
>collector; those who have been in the food and medical system long enough
>to be disabled by and of course there are those who are just too damn lazy
>to give a rip, I guess maybe I repeat myself but it goes on and on. Will
>someone please enlighten me as to from where this large percentage of the
>people to educate is to come? I think we moved to the right of decimal
>some
>time ago.
>
>Really????
>
>
>
>
>I have been through some terrible things in my life, some of which
>actually
>happened. -- Mark Twain
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "tanya" <tanyagarden@gmail.com>
>To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing"
><livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Cities of Light
>
>
>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Liz <liz@allslash.org> wrote:
>>> I wish I knew what would spark people's interest--a larger percentage of
>>> people, I mean. ...
>>
>> Need alone isn't enough. People also have to know they'll succeed, and
>> they have to know how to store and cook with the bounty. So a massive
>> education campaign, with lots of local hands-on teaching, couldn't
>> hurt.
>>
>> The rising popularity of school gardens in some places should help:
>> get them interested while they're young. And I love that Michelle
>> Obama started a kitchen garden at the White House and is talking about
>> healthy eating.
>>
>> A historical perspective helps: during WWI and WWII, victory gardens
>> in the U.S. supplied a huge percentage of produce eaten. The
>> government promoted them endlessly.
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