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  • From: Ken Hargesheimer <minifarms2@yahoo.com>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] More on Low Dairy and Meat Diets
  • Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:48:23 -0700 (PDT)

GO GREEN:  RECYCLE CONGRESS.
 
Ken H

--- On Sat, 6/26/10, pbunch@cox.net <pbunch@cox.net> wrote:

From: pbunch@cox.net <pbunch@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] More on Low Dairy and Meat Diets
To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Saturday, June 26, 2010, 5:58 AM

John:

What is the reg on wildlife in crops?

---- John D'hondt <dhondt@eircom.net> wrote:
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> You said, when laws are wrong they need to be challanged. And by the way,
> that would be tens of thousands of laws to challenge.  Challenge all you
> want. However, protests no matter how big don't even get reported in the
> major media. You can try lawsuits but it takes millions and years and they
> always have deeper pockets. And of course, hordes of people will challenge
> laws THEY think are wrong but you don't.
>
> I'm trying to make the point that the only way masses of people can change
> anything is to change who they work for and how they spend their money.
> Like, in my small way I bypass the whole corporate chain and sell good food
> I grow directly to people who enjoy it. And I don't need anybody's
> permission.
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> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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> Not to upset you Paul but about 6 months ago I got a list of US regulations
> and what was very hot was the obligation to make absolutely sure that no
> wild-life could contaminate vegetables. Lakes had to be filled in and trees
> had to be cut beside vegetable land to discourage birds from flying over and
> drop something. Everything else alive had to be shot or poisoned. If for
> instance a rabbit was seen between the carrots all the vegetables had to be
> destroyed.
> I am sure you have the same feelings about this than I do. What we are both
> really doing is working under big brothers radar. We are small and we keep
> our heads down. I do not sell vegetables or any of the other foods we grow
> or make ourselves. If I did TPTB would descend on me like a ton of bricks.
>
> The real question is how long we will be able to keep doing this. I am sure
> indefinitely is not the right answer. In fact I feel we are in a race
> against time. Either things crash fast and we have the skills to keep eating
> or things drag on and we loose near everything and then we crash and we go
> down with the rest.
> I am also on a list about indigenous people and how they are driven into
> extinction. The South Africans have I think just stopped drilling for water
> in the Kala Hari desert, emptying the water holes of the 'Kun san. Tribes
> everywhere have to move when dams or mining are concerned just as I would be
> overrun if minerals would be discovered here or if Wal-Mart wanted a parking
> lot where your gardens are now you would be concreted over.
>
> People producing food on a small scale are living fossils. Big corporations
> have been working these last decades to get a complete world wide food
> monopoly and make no mistake they will get exactly where they want to be and
> it is only a matter of time before they notice the small fry that has gotten
> through their nets up till then.
> john
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