Ontario Fruit Explorers

["bert dunn" <helbert@idirect.com>]

Well Joe, with 150 varieties, I have many favourite eating grapes, however here goes:

New York Muscat- delicious, juicy eating but only if you like Muscat- white/whitish red, seeded . In N.B. and/or N.S. they are used by some wineries for ice wine. Opened a bottle of my  wine (not ice-wine) for a group of experienced winemakers- it got raves

Vanessa seedless, early, size not too big, I walk around with a handful wolfing them down,also good to make pies/jam as they are seedless

Kandiyohi, very hardy, nice clusters of refreshing grapes, seeded, mid season.

IMO none of the above have any Labrusca taste.

Joe B. is the Coronation expert. I have some immature vines from Joe's cuttings.

Cheers               Bert

Bert Dunn  Box 352 Schomberg    LOG1T0     1-905-880-4453     

 

 

Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 4:12 PM

Thanks much Bert.  Okay, okay, so we can’t grow those grocery-style varieties up here in these climates and I do understand tastes vary but I’m still wondering what your favourite table grape is, both white and red/black.  Then, I’ll probably order one of each.  That way if I don’t like I’ll have someone to blame .  Hahaha…!

 

Joe C.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: labruscagrape-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:labruscagrape-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of bert dunn
Sent: November 7, 2006 3:56 PM
To: Ontario Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [OFEX] The best grape

 

Good morning Joe

Firstly I'd like to explode the myths about my wine making skills spread erroneously by our buddy Tom O. I am very unorthodox when it comes to winemaking. Ask Helga. Kidding aside be glad to answer any questions within my limited knowledge.

Tom's e-mail included many good steps for a newbie in equipment, methods which any would-be should retain.

If you want wine grapes consider Maerchal Foch,Vidal or Baco Noir for red or Seyval Blanc for white. Choosing the 'best' grape for you is like choosing your home/your car/ your spouse.

As far as recommending a "typical grocery store" variety- we can't grow those large, sweet, juicy, tasteless varieties we see there. They come from Chile or Italy or California getting much warmer weather. If you were able to get these plants for your garden, they'd be toes up the next spring.

 At maturity (5 years) a vines produces about 13 lbs of fruit each, a little more, a little less depending on weather, insects, birds and worst of all raccoons.  Frankly you'll not get a heck of a lot of wine from, say 13 lbs- perhaps 4 of 26ers ( or 4 of 5ths- American talk for Tom).   :-))

One thing Tom did not mention was his great press made out of scrounged material and a few dollars to his local hardware store. I have a copy in one of my computer folders but can't figure out on how to forward it (my computer incompetency). Perhaps Tom, you could resend to OFEX.

Consider fruit wines as Tom said. Just had a bottle of Apricot- very good- also try rhubarb- ask you neighbours who does not pick it- look over the fences. Currant wine, Mead, apple wine and many others-- all good stuff.

That's all folks!!   Off to the big smoke.                Cheers             Bert

 

Bert Dunn  Box 352 Schomberg    LOG1T0     1-905-880-4453     

 

Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:47 PM

Subject: [OFEX] The best grape

Bert, I’m a newbie to grapes.  I’m in Mississauga and have two grapes, both  planted this year.  One, a white, came from you, I understand, via Joe Boles (Coronation).  The second variety is a de Chaunac.  Anyway, I don’t have much room but would like to plant two more varieties.  Question: Of all the varieties you carry, if you had to pick the best white and the best red/black table grape what would the varieties be?  Keep in mind that I dislike the taste and fragrance of the old Concord varieties.  Thus I’m looking for something along the vinifera, French hybrid line similar to what we can buy in a typical grocery store.            Joe Calico