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[David Minton <dminton AT mindspring.com>]

Why drink good beer icy cold? I thought the technique was reserved for
making swill beer (like Bud and Miller) drinkable? Below about 35 degrees
you kill the flavor and aroma--a good things for some beers, though not for
the ones I am paying good money for.

What is the right temperature? Time to consult the beeripedia:

    <http://www.beeripedia.com/index.php/Best_serving_temperature>

> The basic rule about serving temperature on beer is, "the more the alcohol,
> the warmer the serving temp."
> 
> 55ºF-60ºF (strong beers, like barleywines, dark ales) 50ºF-55ºF (standard
> ales, like bitters, IPAs, dobbelbocks, abbey ales, lambics, stouts, etc.)
> 45ºF-50ºF (lighter beers, like lagers, pilsners, wheat beers, milds, etc.)
> 
> Some styles like pub cask ales are served at room temp.

Or, a nice historical overview:

    <http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/beertemp.htm>

David

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On 6/3/07 3:05 PM, "Colleen McCarthy" <cmccarthy1 AT nc.rr.com> wrote:

> "Peace Street Market (aka 7 Even) is a *great* place to go shopping."
>  
> I agree-- even after all these years, and all the "Big Box" beer and wine
> stores...
>  
> My beer refrigerator has been having some issues (too long a story to tell),
> so since neither the freezer nor the refrigerator maintains the correct
> temperature, I decided to see if the freezer was warm enough to keep the 
> beer
> cold, but not freeze it.  That again is a long story (with a happy ending--
> Yes!).  Along the way I found the formula for the temperature at which beer
> freezes, which might be of interest to some of you who like your beer really
> cold.
> Freezing Point of Beer  http://probrewer.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6737
> 
> The freezing point of a beer is given as Freezing point
> (°C) = ­0.42 × A + 0.04 × E + 0.2 in which A is the percent of
> alcohol content by weight and E is the original gravity of the wort
> (3). On this basis, each 1% increase in alcohol content lowers the
> freezing point by 0.42°C and each increase in gravity of 1°Plato
> (P) raises it by 0.04°C. Thus, no beer will freeze at ­1°C, and
> products at higher alcohol concentrations (including high-gravity
> brews prior to dilution) will withstand even lower temperatures.
> 
> Since this formula requires the alcohol content by weight, I also looked up
> some example data:
>  
> http://www.realbeer.com/library/beerbreak/archives/beerbreak20001005.php
>  
> Alaskan Amber - Altbier
> <http://www.realbeer.com/cgi-bin/realbeer/cust_redir.cgi?953&amp;http://www.wi
> dmer.com>  - 5.2abv/4.2abw
> BridgePort <http://www.bridgeportbrew.com/>  Old Knucklehead - Barley Wine -
> 9.1abv/7.3abw
> Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout - Imperial Stout - 8.3abv/6.6abw
> Celis White - Belgian Wit - 4.9abv/3.9abw
> Chimay <http://www.mbibeer.com/beer/html/chimay.html>  Grand Reserve -
> Trappist - 9abv/7.2abw
> Duvel - Belgian Strong Golden Ale - 8.5abv/6.8abw
> Fuller's London Pride - Bitter - 4.7abv/3.8abw
> Gordon Biersch <http://www.gordonbiersch.com/>  Marzen - Marzen-Oktoberfest 
> -
> 5.8abv/4.6abw
> Mackeson Stout - Sweet Stout - 5abv/4abw
> Magic Hat Blind Faith IPA - India Pale Ale - 6.1abv/4.9abw
> Oasis Zoser Stout - Oatmeal Stout - 5abv/4abw
> O'Dell's 90 Shilling
> <http://www.realbeer.com/cgi-bin/realbeer/cust_redir.cgi?19282&amp;http://www.
> odellbrewing.com>  - Scottish - 5.6abv/4.5abw
> Paulaner Salvator - Dopplebock - 7.5abv/6abw
> Pete's Wicked Brown - American Brown Ale - 5.2abv/4.2abw
> Pilsner Urquell - Pilsner - 4.4abv/3.3abw
> Redhook 
> <http://www.realbeer.com/cgi-bin/realbeer/cust_redir.cgi?708&amp;http://www.re
> dhook.com>  ESB - Extra Special Bitter - 5.4abv/4.3abv
> Samuel Adams <http://www.samadams.com/>  Boston Lager - Bohemian-style
> Pilsener - 4.75abv/3.8abw
> Sierra Nevada Pale Ale - American Pale Ale - 5.3abv/4.2abw
> Theakston Old Peculier - Old Ale - 5.6abv/4.5abw
> Tucher Helles Hefe Weizen - Hefeweizen - 5.3abv/4.2abw
>  
> Depending on which thermometer I believe, the freezer is either 20 degrees F
> or 26 degrees F (or neither :)!).  All this wonderful data aside, the beer 
> is
> icy cold and even the light beers don't freeze.  All is well with (this part
> of) the world...
> 
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Ray
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:39 PM
> To: cmccarthy1 AT nc.rr.com; 'Internetworkers:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/'
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] FW: Bavarian Hefeweizen
> 
> I admit enjoying whatever Trinette brings home and saying thanks; however,
> Peace Street Market (aka 7 Even) is a *great* place to go shopping.
>  
> Nothing like fitness with a daily 12 oz curl.
>  
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Jim
>  
> Jim Ray, President
> Neuse River Networks
> tel: 919-838-1672 cell: 919-606-1772
> http://www.Neuse.Net
>  
> Connecting You to the World since 1997
>  <http://www.neuse.net/>
> 
> 
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Colleen
> McCarthy
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:26 PM
> To: Internetworkers@Lists. Ibiblio. Org
> Subject: [internetworkers] FW: Bavarian Hefeweizen
>  
> I've been shocked with the quality of all the alcohol that I've gotten from
> Trader Joe's :)! 
>  
> Their winter brew took a first place in my beer refrigerator. It was so good
> that I vowed to stop buying it.... (Sigh, and I did.)
>  
> It's harder to run 40 miles a week in the winter than the summer, and if you
> can't run the distance, you can't drink the good beer...  Amazingly (no,
> *Amazingly*!), Michelob Ultra Amber with some sucralose and some saccharine 
> is
> ... really not that bad :).  It's certainly better than *wearing* the best 
> of
> Trader Joe's,-- or Duck Rabbit, or Rogue  (For anyone who cares, Rogue 
> Brutal
> Bitter is now available in 6 packs...  Don't confuse this with the "Special
> Bitter"-- the Brutal Bitter is stunningly better)
>  
> At ay rate, Trader Joe's does have good EtOH... And you can stay slim, fit,
> and happy with MUA and additives :)
>  
>  
> 
> 
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Ray
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 5:16 PM
> To: 'Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/'
> Subject: [internetworkers] Bavarian Hefeweizen
> I just had my first Trader Joe’s Bavarian Style Hefeweizen.  Very impressed.
> Right on there with Hoegaarden and way cheaper.  Life is good.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Jim
>  
> Jim Ray, President
> Neuse River Networks
> tel: 919-838-1672 cell: 919-606-1772
> http://www.Neuse.Net
>  
> Connecting You to the World since 1997
>  <http://www.neuse.net/>
>  
> 
> 
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