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["Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com>]

As the only other individual on here with as much or more experience in
photography as David, I'm going to weigh in here and tell you the true
facts.  

At a given price point both system are about equal.  At any given time one
system will exceed the other slightly, but the balance will tip next time
the other company releases their camera. And, either system is far more
capable than you will be as the user.  (I wish I could find the link, but a
group of professional photographers used disposable point and shoots for an
art project, and their work was amazing).

In general in digital Canon is recognized as being the leader and on the
cutting edge.  And Nikon is recognized as being a bit behind in terms of
pixels, resolution and sharpness, but more reliable as far as their software
goes.

So I recommend you find models from both companies that have the features
you want and then see which one feels the best to you, fits your hand best,
and that you like more.  And buy that one.  Afterall, it's just like the
silly mac versus pc debate.  The only correct answer to either is the one
that makes you happy.

- Shea Tisdale
 
Former owner of:

Canon AE-1
Canon T-90
Canon F-1
Nikon FM2
Nikon F3
Nikon F3 Titanium
Nikon F3P (one of 5000 ever made)
Nikon F4
Canon XL-1 video camera

And current owner of a Canon D20

And I've also owned or used every almost every piece of glass you can
imagine from a 15mm to a 400mm f/2.8



> -----Original Message-----
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:internetworkers-
> bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of David Minton
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 5:14 PM
> To: InterNetWorkers
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] digital cameras
> 
> For those that have weathered the Mac vs. Windows holy war, looks like the
> Canon vs. Nikon conflagration is about to spill into Internetworkers.
> 
> David
> 
> On 2/8/05 4:59 PM, "Bruce" <bruce AT synthesiscreative.com> wrote:
> 
> > Not going to argue the point.  My experience tells me otherwise.
> >
> > Bruce DeBoer
> > Director of Marketing and Business Development
> > Synthesis
> > 112 S. Blount St.  Ste. 101
> > Raleigh, NC  27601
> > Main: 919-523-6385
> > Fax: 919-829-8299
> > bruce AT synthesiscreative.com
> > www.synthesiscreative.com
> > Photography website:  www.brucedeboer.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of zman
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:51 PM
> > To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> > Subject: RE: [internetworkers] digital cameras
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Bruce wrote:
> >> I can tell you categorically that pros use more Canon Digitals than
> >> anything else - their superiority started with the lenses (film
> > cameras)
> >> and moved into the technology of digital.  The Canon XL1 Digital Video
> >> camera is kicking butt as well in the pro market.
> >
> > Beg to differ once again. I don't think you can make that claim
> > categorically without numbers to back it up.
> >
> > As for the Canon XL1 you are correct for now.
> > Though Sony has been making steady inroads into the market.
> >
> >> By pro market I'm referring to mostly Photo Journalists.  Advertising
> >> Pros use larger format cameras and wedding pros don't need quite the
> >> fire power as that found around the neck of an imbedded war
> >> photographer.
> >
> > Though there are quite a few loal wedding photographers using the D70
> > these days. As for advertising pros, well Brian Regan
> > http://www.breganphoto.com/ is probably one of the top photographers in
> > the
> > area and he's been using his digital back on his Nikon for a lot of his
> > work these days. maybe you should take another look around.
> >
> >> If I was going to spend $1000 on a new camera I would be sure it was
> > at
> >> least 4mp and probably [these days] expect 5 or 6 or more.  However -
> > mp
> >> is NOT the be-all and do-all of digital decision making.  There is
> > pixel
> >> depth too.  The new Fuji S3 for example, stayed with their S2
> > resolution
> >> but decided to increase pixel depth from 256 levels of gray (8 bit) to
> >> thousands (16 bit).  I believe this to be a good idea since Photoshop
> >> now supports 16 bit and, from what I hear, it helps to solve that
> >> annoying tone break in the highlights that has been a curse for
> > digital
> >> uses since the beginning.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bruce DeBoer
> >> Director of Marketing and Business Development
> >> Synthesis
> >> 112 S. Blount St.  Ste. 101
> >> Raleigh, NC  27601
> >> Main: 919-523-6385
> >> Fax: 919-829-8299
> >> bruce AT synthesiscreative.com
> >> www.synthesiscreative.com
> >> Photography website:  www.brucedeboer.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of David
> >> Minton
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:05 PM
> >> To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] digital cameras
> >>
> >> I have a Canon 10D that I have shot about 5,000 images with, which is
> >> similar. This was my first digital interchangeable lens SLR, and I am
> >> quite
> >> happy with it. There are some flaws, which I am told the new 20D
> >> corrects.
> >>
> >> In general, it is my impression that Canon has a technical edge over
> >> Nikon.
> >> The Nikon bodies seem superior when compared to older Canon bodies,
> > and
> >> when
> >> the new Canon comes out, it blows away the Nikon, at least in the Pro
> >> market.
> >>
> >> On the subject of pros, most I know shoot Canon now. I am told the Pro
> >> Nikon
> >> bodies don't hold up as well.
> >>
> >> Anyway, when you move up to interchangeable lenses, you are buying
> > into
> >> a
> >> system. The lenses you buy should last through a few upgrade cycles of
> >> camera bodies. I spent more on my primary lens (16-35mm f/2.8L) than I
> >> did
> >> on the body, as I expect to be using it longer. These cameras are good
> >> enough to capture imperfections in lower quality optics. The $100 kit
> >> lens
> >> (from either brand) is just not going to be as good as a $500-$1,500
> >> lens.
> >> You get what you pay for from your optics.
> >>
> >> Before investing in CF cards, check Rob Galbraith's CF Database:
> >>
> >>    http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007
> >>
> >> You will find that with cameras in this class, that the speed of the
> > CF
> >> card
> >> will come into play, and become the bottleneck in clearing your camera
> >> buffer.
> >>
> >> If you want to check out some cameras, I would recommend Southeastern
> >> Camera, with locations in Cary, Carrboro, and Wilmington:
> >>
> >>    http://www.southeasterncamera.com/
> >>
> >> If you have any specific questions, let me know.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/8/05 11:23 AM, "Lyman Green" <lymang AT gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anyone on the list have a Canon Digital Rebel or a Nikon D70?
> > Looking
> >>> for info on these digital SLR's from a real person (as opposed to a
> >>> faceless internet reviewer).
> >>>
> >>> Lyman Green
> >>
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