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[Michael Czeiszperger <michael AT czeiszperger.org>]

On Oct 1, 2004, at 2:21 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:

> That is very clear to you?  Last night he first said Iraq was a 
> mistake, and
> very shortly thereafter said Iraq wasn't a mistake.  How is that clear?

My understanding of that statement is that as someone who's seen 
friends die in combat, there's no way in hell you can tell there 
relatives they died for a mistake, even its its true.  Its one of the 
"have you stopped beating your wife" questions where you're damned 
either way.  If he had answered the other direction he would have been 
excoriated by relatives of the deceased.


> Republicans don't have to say anything about flip flop.  Kerry's words 
> speak
> for themself.
>
> http://john-kerry.tonyspencer.com/iraq-flip-flop.htm

The funny thing is, if you actually go and read the speeches where 
Kerry supposedly changed positions, its really clear that the Bush camp 
is misrepresenting what Kerry said.  Here's proof from the non-partisan 
Annenberg Political Fact Check organization, which analyzes facts 
surrounding the positions taken by both candidates.

"Kerry has never wavered from his support for giving Bush authority to 
use force in Iraq, nor has he changed his position that he, as 
President, would not have gone to war without greater international 
support. But a Bush ad released Sept. 27 takes many of Kerry's words 
out of context to make him appear to be alternately praising the war 
and condemning it. Here we present this highly misleading ad, along 
with what Kerry actually said, in full context."

http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=269

On the other hand, bush really has changed his positions on a bunch of 
issues.

Bush's Top 10 Flip-Flops:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/28/politics/main646142.shtml


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