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["Tony Spencer" <tony AT tonyspencer.com>]

Substance?

Kerry couldn't even stick to one position on Iraq during the debate!

KERRY: "...But the president made a mistake in invading Iraq."
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.
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LEHRER: "Are Americans now dying in Iraq for a mistake? "

KERRY: "No, and they don't have to, providing we have the leadership that we
put -- that I'm offering."



Phew.  Glad he cleared up the confusion.


I agree with you on style.  Bush didn't look good but Kerry lacked a clear
message.
  

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> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf 
> Of Sasha Akhavi
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:00 AM
> To: Ian Meyer; Internetworkers: 
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> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions
> 
> It wasn't style that tripped Bush up tonight; it was substance.  This 
> was the most issues-focused debate I have seen in a presidential 
> election - no outstanding quips, no distracting jabs, just 90 minutes 
> of Jim Lehrer and John Kerry confronting George Bush about his 
> policies in Iraq, and George Bush faltering in response.
> 
> 3) big things came out of this debate for me: 1) Kerry seemed more 
> presidential - more mature, more resolute, more intelligent and less 
> whiny - than the President and had the opportunity to recast the 
> "flip-flopping" characterization Bush has tried to level at him; 2) 
> Bush was shown up as valuing certainty above rectitude, in the face 
> of all evidence;  3) Kerry reestablished his credentials as a 
> military leader, and a more circumspect one than the President has 
> been.  I'm as biased as they come too, but his respect for the people 
> doing the fighting, and his pledge that their endagerment would be 
> his last resort, was inescapably more sincere than Bush's.
> 
> ... and after sending out this highly partisan message, I'm going to 
> be gone for the weekend, so I won't be around to continue the 
> discussion til Monday.  See y'all then -SA
> 
> >/me has no cable. :'(
> >
> >but i have to say, damn, i thought bush was supposed to be a great
> >debater (resisting saying hes a master debater) and had never lost a
> >debate in his life, but he messed that all up.
> >
> >Now, I'm about as biased as they come, but I'm not above calling
> >someone out of he messed things up. There were a few times when I
> >wanted to reach out and smack Kerry up side the head, but I was too
> >distracted by Bush blinking all the time...or pausing in....the
> >middle........
> >
> >...
> >
> >
> >...
> >
> >
> >of a sentence to compose himself...
> >
> >my $0.02
> >ian
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 00:09:20 -0400, Thomas 
> <thomas AT tbeckett.com> wrote:
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