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[Ian Meyer <ianmeyer AT gmail.com>]

hey, i didn't say it was possible to implement...

if only....

~ian

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:49:32 -0400, Tony Spencer <tony AT tonyspencer.com> wrote:
> Jeez.  I can't believe people still defend Marxism.
> 
> Idealism at its worst!
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
> > Of Ian Meyer
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:55 PM
> > To: mindcrime AT cpphacker.co.uk; Internetworkers:
> > http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> > Subject: Re: [internetworkers] from the desk of Arianna Huffington
> >
> > Communism in the USSR was *based* on Socialism, but thats
> > where any similarities end.
> >
> > Marx was rolling in his grave when he saw his principles
> > adulterated in that way.
> >
> > ~ian
> >
> > ps: as i wrote this, i noticed the adwords for this thread:
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > ~ian
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:55:52 -0400, Phillip Rhodes
> > <mindcrime AT cpphacker.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Alan MacHett wrote:
> > >
> > > > To be honest, I'm dumbfounded.  Until reading your
> > emails, I would
> > > > NEVER have associated 'Republican' or 'Free Market' with
> > management
> > > > having lower salaries than employees or with
> > redistributing profit
> > > > back to the community.  Well, I STILL don't associate
> > those things;
> > > > I think you've mislabeled yourself.
> > >
> > > Why not? Capitalism and Free Market aren't about individuals not
> > > giving back to the community, etc.  "Socialism" (at least as it's
> > > commonly
> > > understood) is about government based charity.  One of the reasons
> > > that Libertarians maintain that government charity is not
> > needed, is
> > > the belief that in the absence of it, private charity would
> > take it's place.
> > >
> > > The relative greed and self-centeredness of individuals is really a
> > > completely separate issue from whether  you live in a socialist or
> > > capitalistic society.  In Soviet Russia during the height
> > of Communism
> > > (the ultimate form of Socialism?) where there not individuals who
> > > managed to accumulate great wealth while others went hungry?
> > >
> > > Capitalism and "Free Market" economics do not *necessarily* equal a
> > > selfish, "me first" attitude on the part of everyone
> > involved. Those
> > > attitudes transcend political and economic affiliations, IMHO.
> > >
> > > TTYL,
> > >
> > > Phil
> > > --
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> > > www.badnarik.org
> > >
> > > FREE AMERICA
> > > Vote Libertarian
> > > www.lp.org
> > >
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