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["Tony Spencer" <tony AT tonyspencer.com>]

DUDE!  That article is from December of last year!  

We've added 1 million jobs in the past 3 months!



T O N Y  S P E N C E R
Notsleepy LLC
6512 Six Forks Rd.
Suite 502-B 
Raleigh, NC 27615
Phone: 919.848.0691
Mobile: 415.637.6481
tony AT tonyspencer.com 

  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org 
> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf 
> Of Paul Cory
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 1:04 AM
> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] from the desk of Arianna Huffington
> 
> And here's an article discussing some of the holes in the way 
> the government analyzes the unemployment statistics:
> 
> http://slate.msn.com/id/2094690/
> 
> So, no, things aren't so rosy when you look at the numbers 
> more closely.
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Jul 22, 2004, at 12:48 AM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> 
> >> distorted by a) oversupply of labor ("jobless recovery") or
> >
> > Jobless recovery?  Nonsense.  We are at the lowest 
> unemployement rate 
> > in 4
> > years:
> > <http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news? 
> > pid=10000103&sid=aE_tiJ8kecXY&refer=us
> >>
> >
> > T O N Y  S P E N C E R
> > Notsleepy LLC
> > 6512 Six Forks Rd.
> > Suite 502-B
> > Raleigh, NC 27615
> > Phone: 919.848.0691
> > Mobile: 415.637.6481
> > tony AT tonyspencer.com
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of 
> >> Thomas
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:43 AM
> >> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> >> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] from the desk of Arianna Huffington
> >>
> >> Tony Spencer wrote:
> >>> I'm hiring my first employees for my fledgling company as
> >> we speak.
> >>
> >> Congratulations, Tony!  That is a huge step.
> >>
> >>> Its
> >>> exciting for me to contribute to someone's salary and are
> >> my employees
> >>> are being screwed?  Absolutely not.
> >>
> >> This is the interesting thing about Capitalism.  Marx is correct 
> >> here, Tony is hiring someone because he can make more money from 
> >> their labor than he is paying them.  Extracting value.  But he is 
> >> paying a fair wage?  Ostensibly yes, according to the market.  
> >> Question is, is the market wage distorted by a) oversupply 
> of labor 
> >> ("jobless recovery") or
> >> b) Tony's unfair bargaining power?  I can't answer the 
> first, I think 
> >> the answer to the second is negative.  This is why small 
> business is 
> >> the foundation of our economy.
> >>
> >> OTOH, does Wal-mart pay its "associates" a fair wage?  Let's see, 
> >> Wal-Mart employs more people than the population of some sovereign 
> >> nations or U.S. states.  But only one Wal-mart store has a 
> collective 
> >> bargaining agreement.
> >>
> >> Oh wait, I said I'd go to bed.
> >>
> >> TaB
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