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  • From: "Tony Spencer" <tony AT tonyspencer.com>
  • To: "'Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/'" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>, <mindcrime AT cpphacker.co.uk>
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  • Subject: RE: [internetworkers] from the desk of Arianna Huffington
  • Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:49:32 -0400

Jeez. I can't believe people still defend Marxism.

Idealism at its worst!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
> Of Ian Meyer
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:55 PM
> To: mindcrime AT cpphacker.co.uk; Internetworkers:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] from the desk of Arianna Huffington
>
> Communism in the USSR was *based* on Socialism, but thats
> where any similarities end.
>
> Marx was rolling in his grave when he saw his principles
> adulterated in that way.
>
> ~ian
>
> ps: as i wrote this, i noticed the adwords for this thread:
>
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>
> ~ian
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:55:52 -0400, Phillip Rhodes
> <mindcrime AT cpphacker.co.uk> wrote:
> > Alan MacHett wrote:
> >
> > > To be honest, I'm dumbfounded. Until reading your
> emails, I would
> > > NEVER have associated 'Republican' or 'Free Market' with
> management
> > > having lower salaries than employees or with
> redistributing profit
> > > back to the community. Well, I STILL don't associate
> those things;
> > > I think you've mislabeled yourself.
> >
> > Why not? Capitalism and Free Market aren't about individuals not
> > giving back to the community, etc. "Socialism" (at least as it's
> > commonly
> > understood) is about government based charity. One of the reasons
> > that Libertarians maintain that government charity is not
> needed, is
> > the belief that in the absence of it, private charity would
> take it's place.
> >
> > The relative greed and self-centeredness of individuals is really a
> > completely separate issue from whether you live in a socialist or
> > capitalistic society. In Soviet Russia during the height
> of Communism
> > (the ultimate form of Socialism?) where there not individuals who
> > managed to accumulate great wealth while others went hungry?
> >
> > Capitalism and "Free Market" economics do not *necessarily* equal a
> > selfish, "me first" attitude on the part of everyone
> involved. Those
> > attitudes transcend political and economic affiliations, IMHO.
> >
> > TTYL,
> >
> > Phil
> > --
> > Vote Badnarik for President 2004
> > www.badnarik.org
> >
> > FREE AMERICA
> > Vote Libertarian
> > www.lp.org
> >
> >
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