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[Ian Meyer <ianmeyer AT mac.com>]

so we have manual labor jobs as well as stuff like harris teeter providing jobs, but what we still need is jobs for people lik i was talking about before, the people who are trained, have experience, and should be able to get jobs in their fields, not have to get a job at the HT because they dont want to be on welfare anymore

~ian


On Apr 12, 2004, at 3:34 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:

> You're still not getting it.  It's not payroll dollar amounts but an increase in the number of payrolls (job increases).
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> Read the report:
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> <http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm>
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> "Payroll job growth was fairly widespread, as construction employment rose sharply and several major service-providing industries also added jobs."
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> -----Original Message-----
>  From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ian Meyer
>  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:27 PM
>  To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
>  Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Economic growth figures rigged?
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> still, payroll increases do not necessarily correlate with job increases
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> i mean, a handful of execs getting million dollar bonuses could tweak
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>  numbers like that
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> (not that i am just putting that forward, not saying it applies, im
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>  busy so i didnt read the data...yet)
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> ~ian
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>
> On Apr 12, 2004, at 3:03 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
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> > You guys are getting it all wrong.  The massive job growth reported on
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>  > April
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> > 2nd was a measure of *payroll* increase, not a measure of the number of
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> > unemployment claims.
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> >
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> > <http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm>
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> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
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> > [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ian
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>  > Meyer
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> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:19 PM
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> > To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/;
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> > kurt.schlatzer AT flashpoint.com
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> > Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Economic growth figures rigged?
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> >
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> > Why, if you aren't on unemployment, you *must* be employed!
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> >
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> > Its not possible that someone could possible not get a job, and even if
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> > their unemployment ran out instead of ending early, I'm sure that it
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> > was immediately followed by getting hired
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> >
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> > So of course, less people on unemployment means more people in jobs, it
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> > can't be that there are so few jobs that people are running out of
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> > unemployment and still not finding work, no, that can't be happening!
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> >
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> > Jeez...I feel so unclean after typing that...
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> >
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> > I had a gentleman come through my line the other day at the HT, he was
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> > clean, average dressed (not fancy, but clean clothes, reasonably nice)
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> > and it was his first time using his new EBT (Electronic Benefit
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> > Transfer--welfare) card to buy groceries after he lost his job. He was
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> > even asking about if we were hiring at the HT. Now, I know better than
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> > to judge a book by its cover, but something tells me that when someone
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> > that looks like they have more than half a brain and obviously work
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> > experience is thinking about taking an unskilled labor job such as
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> > working at a grocery store, there is something wrong going on.
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> >
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> > My $0.02
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> > Ian
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> >
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> > On Apr 12, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Kurt Schlatzer wrote:
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> >
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> >> Michael Czeiszperger wrote:
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> >>
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> >>> For a while now we've been told the economy's in a recovery, but have
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> >>> been wondering why there isn't more job growth.
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> >>
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> >> It seems like we continuously hear that the number of people claiming
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> >> unemployment compensation keeps dropping and it's spun as job growth.
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>  >> I
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> >> wonder if people who exhaust their unemployment benefits and remain
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> >> unemployed are still counted among the unemployed, or if they drop off
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> >> the
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> >> roster. When I exhausted my benefits, nobody cared if I found work
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> >> after
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> >> that point and I didn't have to turn in work search reports to the
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>  >> ESC.
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> >>
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> >> Kurt Schlatzer
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> >> www.kurtschlatzer.com
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