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  • From: Ian Meyer <ianmeyer AT mac.com>
  • To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Economic growth figures rigged?
  • Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:27:03 -0400

still, payroll increases do not necessarily correlate with job increases

i mean, a handful of execs getting million dollar bonuses could tweak numbers like that

(not that i am just putting that forward, not saying it applies, im busy so i didnt read the data...yet)

~ian


On Apr 12, 2004, at 3:03 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:

You guys are getting it all wrong. The massive job growth reported on April
2nd was a measure of *payroll* increase, not a measure of the number of
unemployment claims.

<http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm>

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[mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ian Meyer
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:19 PM
To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/;
kurt.schlatzer AT flashpoint.com
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Economic growth figures rigged?

Why, if you aren't on unemployment, you *must* be employed!

Its not possible that someone could possible not get a job, and even if
their unemployment ran out instead of ending early, I'm sure that it
was immediately followed by getting hired

So of course, less people on unemployment means more people in jobs, it
can't be that there are so few jobs that people are running out of
unemployment and still not finding work, no, that can't be happening!

Jeez...I feel so unclean after typing that...

I had a gentleman come through my line the other day at the HT, he was
clean, average dressed (not fancy, but clean clothes, reasonably nice)
and it was his first time using his new EBT (Electronic Benefit
Transfer--welfare) card to buy groceries after he lost his job. He was
even asking about if we were hiring at the HT. Now, I know better than
to judge a book by its cover, but something tells me that when someone
that looks like they have more than half a brain and obviously work
experience is thinking about taking an unskilled labor job such as
working at a grocery store, there is something wrong going on.

My $0.02
Ian

On Apr 12, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Kurt Schlatzer wrote:

Michael Czeiszperger wrote:

For a while now we've been told the economy's in a recovery, but have
been wondering why there isn't more job growth.

It seems like we continuously hear that the number of people claiming
unemployment compensation keeps dropping and it's spun as job growth. I
wonder if people who exhaust their unemployment benefits and remain
unemployed are still counted among the unemployed, or if they drop off
the
roster. When I exhausted my benefits, nobody cared if I found work
after
that point and I didn't have to turn in work search reports to the ESC.

Kurt Schlatzer
www.kurtschlatzer.com

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