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  • From: "Tony Spencer" <tony AT tonyspencer.com>
  • To: "'Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/'" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: RE: [internetworkers] email service suggestions?
  • Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:54:34 -0500

Ouch. Perhaps you should look beyond register.com for service.

My whois entries update within a few hours max.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Champeon [mailto:schampeo AT hesketh.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:49 PM
> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] email service suggestions?
>
> on Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 07:01:59PM -0500, Sil Greene wrote:
> >
> > Reported 04.02.25 18:59 from Steven Champeon:
> > .:on Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:55:47PM -0500, Tony Spencer wrote:
> >
> > .:> > registered to. OK, what's the problem? You cannot
> change the .:>
> > > Organization in any registrar I've used, as that's the only .:> >
> > legally binding part of the whole registration agreement.
> > .:> > That's how it's always been, AFAIK.
> >
> > .:> Not true with 000Domains.com. YOu can change the
> organiztion as
> > many times .:> as you like in real time.
> >
> > .:Bizarre. So if every field in the db is editable, how do
> they know
> > who .:the domain is actually registered to? Or is that the point?
> >
> > What do you want, Steve? Accountability?
>
> I'll settle for a whois that works, and a system that
> punishes those who are making money off the registrations but
> not providing their ICANN mandated services properly.
>
> As it stands, I've got domains registered that still have
> whois db entries pointing to DNS servers I stopped using more
> than a year ago.
>
> Fortunately, the root servers have the right entries. But
> what the hell is wrong with register.com that they can't
> update their whois db entries? It's silly. Bunch of incompetents.
>
> And, to make matters worse, the whois entries at ARIN for
> those IPs point to the previous ISP, and list us as the registrant.
>
> And the rDNS on those IPs points to our domain. Even though
> we left that provider many months ago.
>
> So, if someone hijacks them for a spam run, for example, it
> appears that my company had something to do with it, despite
> having migrated off that network entirely months ago. And if
> they lookup the rDNS for that IP, they get a domain. They run
> a whois query on the domain, and the DNS servers appear to be correct.
>
> Voila, I get blamed for something I had nothing to do with,
> and all the evidence points to me, because my registrar and
> my former hosting provider don't care. And ICANN doesn't
> care, either, obviously.
>
> And it makes me wonder how accurate all the rest of the rDNS
> and whois and so on really is.
>
> So, yeah, I just want a whois that works.
>
> But I'm not, um, holding my breath or anything.
>
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