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  • From: Steven Champeon <schampeo AT hesketh.com>
  • To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] email service suggestions?
  • Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:49:21 -0500

on Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 07:01:59PM -0500, Sil Greene wrote:
>
> Reported 04.02.25 18:59 from Steven Champeon:
> .:on Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:55:47PM -0500, Tony Spencer wrote:
>
> .:> > registered to. OK, what's the problem? You cannot change the
> .:> > Organization in any registrar I've used, as that's the only
> .:> > legally binding part of the whole registration agreement.
> .:> > That's how it's always been, AFAIK.
>
> .:> Not true with 000Domains.com. YOu can change the organiztion as many
> times
> .:> as you like in real time.
>
> .:Bizarre. So if every field in the db is editable, how do they know who
> .:the domain is actually registered to? Or is that the point?
>
> What do you want, Steve? Accountability?

I'll settle for a whois that works, and a system that punishes those who
are making money off the registrations but not providing their ICANN
mandated services properly.

As it stands, I've got domains registered that still have whois db
entries pointing to DNS servers I stopped using more than a year ago.

Fortunately, the root servers have the right entries. But what the hell
is wrong with register.com that they can't update their whois db
entries? It's silly. Bunch of incompetents.

And, to make matters worse, the whois entries at ARIN for those IPs
point to the previous ISP, and list us as the registrant.

And the rDNS on those IPs points to our domain. Even though we left that
provider many months ago.

So, if someone hijacks them for a spam run, for example, it appears that
my company had something to do with it, despite having migrated off that
network entirely months ago. And if they lookup the rDNS for that IP,
they get a domain. They run a whois query on the domain, and the DNS
servers appear to be correct.

Voila, I get blamed for something I had nothing to do with, and all the
evidence points to me, because my registrar and my former hosting
provider don't care. And ICANN doesn't care, either, obviously.

And it makes me wonder how accurate all the rest of the rDNS and whois
and so on really is.

So, yeah, I just want a whois that works.

But I'm not, um, holding my breath or anything.

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