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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act
- From: Steven Champeon <schampeo AT hesketh.com>
- To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act
- Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:59:01 -0500
on Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:16:01AM -0500, Sil Greene wrote:
>
> Well, all spam (in theory) has a valid link.
Ha, ha. That's a good one. Ever heard of address phishing scams? How about
broken spamware that sends out mail from a From of "$FIRSTNAME $LASTNAME"?
You assume a /lot/ that you probably shouldn't assume.
> Whether it's the From: or Reply-To: address being a valid account
> (even a mail drop), or whether an embedded link in the body of the
> message is used, the only way it's profitable is to be able to accept
> replies. So it may be unreasonable to assume valid header addresses in
> every case, but somewhere in the message is a valid connection. The
> problem is to algorithmically isolate and utilize the valid.
You can't. So, please, don't try.
All of the "University Diploma" and "Overseas Drivers License" scams I
have seen contain a phone number.
I'd say most of the spam that actually gets through has a valid URL, but
many times it is obscured by entity encoding, URL encoding, or is using a
rd.yahoo.com redirect. The whois information is almost always falsified.
The only thing that spamcop proves is that most people using spamcop can't
tell the difference between forged and real headers - even those added by
their own ISP's mail server.
Find a different method. You could start by researching ROKSO and see
who in the local area is a well-known spammer (there are quite a few in
Raleigh) and give them a call, as you propose to do to all spammers.
After all, if you want to stop spam, you have to spend a lot of time,
right? Why not spend it locally? Let us know how you do.
Steve
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hesketh.com/inc. v: (919) 834-2552 f: (919) 834-2554 w: http://hesketh.com
Book publishing is second only to furniture delivery in slowness. -b. schneier
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RE: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act
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RE: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Michael D. Thomas, 11/17/2003
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RE: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CANSPAM"act,
Alan MacHett, 11/17/2003
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RE: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CANSPAM"act,
Michael D. Thomas, 11/17/2003
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RE: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 -"CANSPAM"act,
Alan MacHett, 11/17/2003
- RE: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 -"CANSPAM"act, Michael D. Thomas, 11/18/2003
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RE: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 -"CANSPAM"act,
Alan MacHett, 11/17/2003
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RE: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CANSPAM"act,
Michael D. Thomas, 11/17/2003
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RE: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CANSPAM"act,
Alan MacHett, 11/17/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Alan MacHett, 11/17/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Sil Greene, 11/17/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Alan MacHett, 11/18/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Sil Greene, 11/18/2003
- Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act, Jeremy Portzer, 11/18/2003
- Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act, Steven Champeon, 11/18/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Sil Greene, 11/18/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Steven Champeon, 11/18/2003
- Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act, zman, 11/18/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Sil Greene, 11/18/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Steven Champeon, 11/18/2003
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[internetworkers] Re: SPAM the SPAMMERS,
David R . Matusiak, 11/18/2003
- Re: [internetworkers] Re: SPAM the SPAMMERS, Steven Champeon, 11/18/2003
- [internetworkers] Re: SPAM the SPAMMERS, James Manning, 11/18/2003
- Re: [internetworkers] [Law/Econ] SPAM the SPAMMERS, Alan MacHett, 11/19/2003
- RE: [internetworkers] Re: SPAM the SPAMMERS, Michael D. Thomas, 11/18/2003
- Re: [internetworkers] Re: SPAM the SPAMMERS, Thomas Beckett, 11/18/2003
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[internetworkers] Re: SPAM the SPAMMERS,
David R . Matusiak, 11/18/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Steven Champeon, 11/18/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Alan MacHett, 11/18/2003
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Re: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Sil Greene, 11/17/2003
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RE: [internetworkers] Call your Rep. now to oppose S.877 - "CAN SPAM"act,
Michael D. Thomas, 11/17/2003
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