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["Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>]

As I understand it, from friends in Germany, Finland and a couple of other 
European countries, it isn't so much the tort reform we need as the bringing 
down of the AMA wall.  Bad doctors in other countries don't get to continue 
practicing if they kill people.  They come over here and get a new license 
to kill.

A good example of how this is done is the local FNP.  She got run out of 
Portland, so she came down to CA.  OR didn't send along all of the dings on 
her record in OR to the CA nursing board.  Right now, as I type, there are 
17 people in this very small valley who are filing complaints against her. 
She literally killed my neighbor.  She has sentenced another neighbor's 8 
year old daughter to a lifetime of pain and misery (Lyme.  They were told 
she was a "drama queen" and that they should go home and "pray" as there was 
nothing the medical profession could do for an 8 year old hypochondriac). 
Told another family their 10 year old had lung cancer (no test, he had 
walking pneumonia) and to go home and "enjoy the time you have left." 
Called a 16 year old girl (in the Special Ed class) on her cell at school to 
tell her she had herpies and that if she didn't already have cancer she 
would have it shortly.  Then hung up after telling her to "call sometime 
next week for an appointment so we can talk about how we are going to treat 
the cancer you're getting."

So, we do need "some" tort reform but we really need licensing reform! 
Well, and scam reform.  Friend in Texas had a tumor on her leg.  Her GP had 
all the tests done (blood, x-rays, scans, biopsies, etc.).  Sent her to a 
specialist (vascular surgeon) and he ordered ALL of the tests to be done 
again.  Complete waste of money!

Plus doctor shopping and folks who think visiting a doctor is a social 
occasion so schedule to see them when they don't need to.

All in all, we need LOTS of reform!

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <DSanner106 AT aol.com>


> The main difference and the thing that holds us back is what the Dems
> refuse to address and that is Tort reform. French doctors don't fear 
> being
> sued  every time they make a diagnosis. If we can take the lawyers  out
> of the mix we can solve a bunch of the health care problems quite  easily.
> I have French doctors as friends and there is also much they envy of  our
> system, so it is far from perfect in their world either.
>
> We can't update our medical records systems to the level they would  like
> as that is where most evidence that later appears in court comes from.
> Face it, as long as the doctors, hospitals and insurers are on the
> defensive,
> we will not be able to make certain advances.
>
> Drew
>
>
>
> In a message dated 3/29/2010 2:06:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> lurine AT com-pair.net writes:
>
> I've  been looking at the French system because it has done a couple of
> things I  like and think we'd be well advised to copy.  It has brought
> paperwork and billing into the 21st century and thus cut costs to doctors
> WAY down.  I know our doctor is beginning to use a level of their
> computerized systems (almost all notes directly on the computer and all
> prescriptions sent electronically directly to the pharmacy) but has yet to
> update the medical records system they use.
>
> However, there are a  lot of people (thousands) not covered by the French
> plans (there are about  3 you have to choose from) AND it is not 100%
> coverage.  People have  to buy their own supplemental or pay anywhere from
> 20-40% as  co-pays.
>
> And I suppose you could say that society provides the  healthcare in 
> Japan.
> Employers and employees pay the fees, out of each  paycheck, for 
> themselves
> and the poor.  And you do have a co-pay  although they have a monthly
> out-of-pocket max.
>
> Lynda
> -----  Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob"  <becida AT comcast.net>
>
>
> > In Canada or France or GB or Japan  this would not be an issue, it
> > would not come up. Health care is like  fire protection or police,
> > it's something the society  does.
> >
> > Rob
> > becida AT comcast.net
> >
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