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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Paradigm shift - well put.  I agree that the shift is "inevitable and is 
irrespective of who's in office and what their policies are."  Unfornately 
the root cause of the paradigm shift is not grasped by the masses.  History 
repeats.  Geez the cause of the paradigm shift is even documented in the 
Bible in Genesis.  The social paradigm shifted first many decades ago which 
has caused the current economic shift.  I seriously doubt either are 
reversible at this point.
 
I have heard about google's o/s also.  It will be interesting to see how many 
other software companies will get around to writing programs based on it.  I 
know the software I use the most only runs on windows, so I've not had a 
choice for years.  I was always surprised they didn't support mac... but it 
costs money to write for different o/s I suppose....
 
I think most the the city/suburban/exurban folks have no clue what's coming 
down the road for them.  
 
I just now catching up on several weeks of email that piled up.  Someone 
mentioned something about homeless people camping in tents.  So true.  This 
is a big over winter camping area for RVs also.  I noticed there is a much 
higher fill rate on the RV campgrounds in the area compared to last year.  
Many of them are close to full, which is unheard of in July.  Next time I 
should stop and ask if they have an increase in full-timers year round types. 
 Last year there were only about 5-10 RVs in each park.
 
At the local alternator repair shop, which services commercial and auto for a 
250 mile plus area... business is way down.  Biz has virtually stopped at the 
mines (copper etc).  The shop owner is worried, as he's been there for 30 
+years and has never seen a slow down like this.  The number of local 
businesses closing seems to have slowed.  But I think that is temporary as 
Wave 2 of economic problems should be getting underway in a more noticeable 
manner in about 2 months.
 
I think I wrote before that a local LP company is having trouble getting 
parts, his suppliers have been going out of biz.
 
I wish I was much further along in getting as close to the homesteading level 
as possible for this area.   At least I'm finding what grows easily here, and 
what I've had trouble with so far.
 
I do live in a big commercial farming area.  I know from history what should 
happen to them under certain economic conditions as massive studies have 
already been published about what happens to farming under hyperinflation 
scenarios if that unfolds.  I wonder if any of them will be able to adapt to 
a paradigm shift....  I do believe we are in a depression (based on real 
world unemployment numbers), but the government piling on more and more debt, 
and more and more policies that closes more businesses just opens the door 
for hyperinflation further.
 
(Shall we guess?  The government will hand out food to starving masses, and 
print money to pay for it, causing inflation at the farmer's supply levels, 
causing the government to "do something" a/k/a subsidize the farmers, paid 
for by printing more money, causing food prices paid for by the government 
for the hand outs to starving masses, causing them to print more money to pay 
for it, causing .... repeat and repeat.... until systemic collapse.)
 
On another front, at the current Chinese population growth rate, it isn't so 
far off in the future that they will consume nearly all resources.  Talk 
about a big motivator for being a homesteader and stocking up on shovels, 
etc.  :-)
 
 
 
I have signed up for a how-to-do-it-yourself solar class in the fall at the 
local college.  The 2 biggest things I worry about here are pumping up water 
from the well, and refrigeration and freezing.  Last month the power company 
has raised prices for a 4th time in 12 months (overall a 33% increase in 
electric costs in one year... "inflation is around the corner is here...).  
 
I know with planning I can grow food.  What I haven't been able to do is 
figure out a way to create something to be used in a direct-exchange 
environment.
 
Hey, I was watching an old western yesterday, The Magnificent Seven.  In that 
movie the mexican women were "scrubbing" corn cobs against something that 
looked like small round stones cemented to a (wash)board.  What I couldn't 
tell is if they were just rubbing whole kernels off the cobs,,,, or if they 
were somehow rough grinding the corn.  Anyone know how they used to do it?
 
 
 
 
 

--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com> wrote:


From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com Clansgian AT wmconnect.com




> >Hey James, did you hear that Balmer said that if the Cap & Trade is 
> passed that Microsoft is going to ship it's job's overseas!!!

Heard that indeed.  But it's even stickier than that.  Several outfits are 
threatening to launch feasible operating systems (such as Google's Chrome) 
next year which bypass MicroSoft completely and which will be completely free 
and open source.

So not only will Microsoft ship their jobs overseas, it will likely be a 
remnant of jobs at best.

I anticipate that Obama is going to be successful in getting most of his 
'druthers passed, and this includes Cap and Trade.

Our problem, says I, is that the economic (and social) paradigm has 
shifted.  This shift was inevitable and is irrespective of who's in office 
and what 
their policies are.  What appears to be gloom and doom is simply our 
collective inability or reluctance to shift with the shifting times.  That 
is, if 
we expect to get and keep an industrial job (or cubicle dwelling, paper 
shifting, job tossing about bags of air), put away enough money for a 
comfortable retirement at 55, make money "investing" or in flipping houses 
.... then 
times indeed are going to be hard.  We're never going back to that.

Soon or late we must adapt to the changing economic reality, and I mean 
changing for good (in both senses as in "forever" and "to our benefit"),  
Those 
of us who have always lived in remote areas, close to the bone, and by our 
own wits are already 85% of the way there.  

I don't mean by this that everyone must become organic farmers or 
homesteaders, although a lot more poeple will have to and in fact want to 
considering 
the alternatives.  It's just that I think the new city life will be very 
different than it is now and the suburban and exurban life will just about 
disappear altogether.

James
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History shows that as inflation forces reach a tipping point that productive 
businesses figure out they can make more money by trading "paper" than by 
producing.  So think of GE makes money making loans, ditto for Deere, Sears, 
and on and on.  These are some of the clues that hyperinflation is 
threatening down the road.  
 
Same goes for the 20-30 minutes down the road thinking by traders.  There are 
too many businesses slowing or stopping making things, switching their models 
to trading paper, or going bankrupt.  Too much uncertainty in the future to 
make an "investment" in the future.  
 
With so much uncertainty, the gamblers have become the ones who haven't 
changed with the times and continue to believe that buy/hold for 20-30 years 
works in this environment.  
 
Ha ~~~  If I could.... I still would "buy and hold' critical supplies that 
would be hard to find in an environment that is either in a depression or 
hyperinflation.... and sell them later as needed.
 

--- On Fri, 7/17/09, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com> wrote:



....  Stock investers are that way now of days.  
Used to be stock was something you bought now in hopes that it would 
increase in value over twenty or thirty years.  Now of days it seems like 
most 
"investors" (read "gamblers") are looking twenty or thirty minutes into the 
future.

James




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Everytime I hear the word "czar" I cringe.... and have to pinch myself to see 
if I still live in the USA.....  I'm still pinching....
 
 

--- On Thu, 7/16/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:



It sounds great to have a cybertech czar-or whatever, but when all of
these czars are accountable only to the President, is this not
duplicating what other branches of government are already doing and
thereby not only confusing the chain of command and responsibility, but
also expanding government(do we really want more government interference
in our lives?) and removing the balance of power between the branches of
government?




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Does anyone have any second sources confirming this?  Someone just sent me 
these links.
 
1)  Justice Roberts agrees to look at the Obama US citizen elligibility issue.
 
World Net Daily News
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91763
March 14, 2009
 
 
2)  A soldier challenging Obama's authority to send him to war --- results in 
his orders being rescinded by his superiors.... an acknowledgement by his 
superiors that Obama isn't a  legitimate commander in charge???!!!
 
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104009
July 14, 2009
 
 
I.E. is World Net Daily a legimitate source of info,,,, anyone?
 
 
 
Does anyone have any thoughts on possibilities of civil unrest if these 
accusations are true?



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> I.E. is World Net Daily a legitimate source of info,,,, anyone?

No.

wen