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- From: bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
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- Subject: Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant
- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:18:26 -0800 (PST)
Lynn, 'just curious because I've been through this. Has your mother given
written directives? Do you and the hospital have the paperwork?
I am happy for you that the surgery is done, and I wish you all the best.
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--- On Wed, 1/21/09, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 5:44 AM
> They did the surgery on my mother yesterday. They inserted a
> rod with a
> plate and screws. They've arranged for her to be
> transferred to a
> rehabilitation center for a couple of weeks. She had a
> choice of two
> centers; I chose the one where her regular doctor visits
> every day...maybe
> they can deal with some of her chronic problems while
> she's there.
>
> Lynn Wigglesworth
> Tioga Co. PA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leslie" <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant
>
>
> Well said.
>
> Just one thing, in case Lynn doesn't know -- compound
> fracture refers to a
> bone that breaks thru the skin - which requires immediate
> treatment and is
> treated as a priority on the triage list in the ER, and
> emergency surgery,
> if required to realign the bone ends - but not surgery if
> they can be
> reduced [aligned] without surgery. That's painful - so
> often anesthesia in
> OR just to reduce pain while aligning the ends. Except some
> fractures
> require plates & screws to fix.
>
> If it is just the bones ends separated apart, but not
> broken thru the skin,
> not quite the same thing on the triage priority list.
>
> Still this is ridiculous - including all the steps Lynda
> posted, why not
> just call an orthopedic doc in?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
> wrote:
>
> From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 1:19 PM
>
> By-pass the floor and go straight to administration. Tell
> them that you are
> fully aware of how the Medicare system works and that if
> they don't
> straighten up and give your mother the appropriate care you
> will be making a
> demand for a FULL (important word to use) Medicare review
> of the WHOLE
> hospital and its care of patients. Further, you want to
> know when the next
> QA Committee (Quality Assurance) meeting is and that you
> demand to be put on
> the agenda.
>
> Inform the head of the medical staff, they should have a
> medical director,
> that you will be filing a complaint with the state medical
> board if care
> does not improve immediately.
>
> And, you are correct about clots, etc. Further, every P
> & P (policy and
> procedure manual and all hospitals have them) that I've
> ever seen calls for
>
> *immediate* treatment of a compound fracture! That
> doesn't mean wait two
> days, that means getting an orth surgeon called in to do
> emergency surgery!
> This is particularly important in the elder when blood flow
> is a problem and
> the longer you wait the more likely you are to further
> compromise their
> circulation.
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynn Wigglesworth"
> <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
>
>
> > Since the list is slow this morning, it's time for
> a rant. My mother,
> 92
> > years old, fell on Sunday morning and broke her arm. I
> saw the xray in the
> > ER, and it's a bad break, jagged, and open, with a
> large chunk of bone
> > detached and off to the side.
> >
> > She was admitted to the hospital from the ER Sunday
> afternoon, and they
> > have
> > done NOTHING for her yet. I watched the nursed change
> her sheets and roll
> > her over on the broken arm...my mother was screaming
> in pain, and they
> > just
> > say "I know it hurts, but we have to get this
> sheet out from under
> you".
> > They wouldn't feed her in case the specialist
> wanted to rush her to
> > surgery.
> > As far as I know, she's had one or two meals since
> breakfast on
> Sunday.
> > The
> > specialist didn't even look at her until Monday
> evening, and they
> didn't
> > schedule surgery until 3:00 today. She could starve by
> then.
> >
> > Isn't there a serious danger of a clot causing
> embolisms or aneurisms
> with
> > an open break? She's been trapped in bed since
> Sunday morning, so her
> poor
> > circulation is further challenged. Is that any way to
> treat an old lady?
> > Why I hate doctors and hospitals. I call/show up and
> throw a hissy fit for
> > them to do something for her, but no one pays
> attention to me...I'm
> just
> > "that crazy daughter".
> >
> > Lynn Wigglesworth
> > Tioga Co. PA
> >
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant
, (continued)
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
EarthNSky, 01/20/2009
- Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant, bobf, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
Lynn Wigglesworth, 01/20/2009
- Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant, Lynda, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
Lynda, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
Mogrits, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
Lynda, 01/20/2009
- Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant, Lynn Wigglesworth, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
Lynda, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
Leslie, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
Lynn Wigglesworth, 01/21/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
bobf, 01/21/2009
- Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant, Lynn Wigglesworth, 01/21/2009
- Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant, bobf, 01/21/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
bobf, 01/21/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
Lynn Wigglesworth, 01/21/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
Mogrits, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
Lynn Wigglesworth, 01/22/2009
- Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant, bobf, 01/22/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant,
EarthNSky, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Real History & Change - for me, anyway,
bobf, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Real History & Change - for me, anyway,
Lynda, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Real History & Change - for me, anyway,
bobf, 01/20/2009
- Re: [Homestead] Real History & Change - for me, anywa, Mogrits, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Real History & Change - for me, anyway,
bobf, 01/20/2009
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Re: [Homestead] Real History & Change - for me, anyway,
Lynda, 01/20/2009
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