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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Well said.
 
Just one thing, in case Lynn doesn't know -- compound fracture refers to a 
bone that breaks thru the skin - which requires immediate treatment and is 
treated as a priority on the triage list in the ER, and emergency surgery, if 
required to realign the bone ends - but not surgery if they can be reduced 
[aligned] without surgery.  That's painful - so often anesthesia in OR just 
to reduce pain while aligning the ends.  Except some fractures require plates 
& screws to fix.
 
If it is just the bones ends separated apart, but not broken thru the skin, 
not quite the same thing on the triage priority list.
 
Still this is ridiculous - including all the steps Lynda posted, why not just 
call an orthopedic doc in?
 
 
 
 


--- On Tue, 1/20/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:

From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Anti-hospital Rant
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 1:19 PM

By-pass the floor and go straight to administration.  Tell them that you are 
fully aware of how the Medicare system works and that if they don't 
straighten up and give your mother the appropriate care you will be making a 
demand for a FULL (important word to use) Medicare review of the WHOLE 
hospital and its care of patients.  Further, you want to know when the next 
QA Committee (Quality Assurance) meeting is and that you demand to be put on 
the agenda.

Inform the head of the medical staff, they should have a medical director, 
that you will be filing a complaint with the state medical board if care 
does not improve immediately.

And, you are correct about clots, etc.  Further, every P & P (policy and 
procedure manual and all hospitals have them) that I've ever seen calls for

*immediate* treatment of a compound fracture!  That doesn't mean wait two 
days, that means getting an orth surgeon called in to do emergency surgery! 
This is particularly important in the elder when blood flow is a problem and 
the longer you wait the more likely you are to further compromise their 
circulation.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lynn Wigglesworth" <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>


> Since the list is slow this morning, it's time for a rant. My mother,
92
> years old, fell on Sunday morning and broke her arm. I saw the xray in the
> ER, and it's a bad break, jagged, and open, with a large chunk of bone
> detached and off to the side.
>
> She was admitted to the hospital from the ER Sunday afternoon, and they 
> have
> done NOTHING for her yet. I watched the nursed change her sheets and roll
> her over on the broken arm...my mother was screaming in pain, and they 
> just
> say "I know it hurts, but we have to get this sheet out from under
you".
> They wouldn't feed her in case the specialist wanted to rush her to 
> surgery.
> As far as I know, she's had one or two meals since breakfast on
Sunday. 
> The
> specialist didn't even look at her until Monday evening, and they
didn't
> schedule surgery until 3:00 today. She could starve by then.
>
> Isn't there a serious danger of a clot causing embolisms or aneurisms
with
> an open break? She's been trapped in bed since Sunday morning, so her
poor
> circulation is further challenged.  Is that any way to treat an old lady?
> Why I hate doctors and hospitals. I call/show up and throw a hissy fit for
> them to do something for her, but no one pays attention to me...I'm
just
> "that crazy daughter".
>
> Lynn Wigglesworth
> Tioga Co. PA
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Bet some ambulance chaser atty would love that one............. easy paper 
trail to subpoena on that one.

--- On Tue, 1/20/09, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

While I was in the ER, the ambulance called in with a 28 year old with a
spiral fracture of the arm. The ER arranged to have her taken to a larger
hospital in the next county to have it worked on by an orthopedic specialist
right away. My mother had been in the ER over an hour by then, and they
hadn't even gotten her to x-ray yet. Age discrimination lives.

Lynn Wigglesworth

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Lynn Wigglesworth wrote:
> Good job, Bev! What are you going to do with all these chickens? I
> assume most of the males get eaten. Do you have room in your coop to
> grow them all out?
>
>

http://www.myspace.com/tervetuloa13

Go to the Pics, then pick the Chicken Housing album under the incubator
picture.  You can see in pictures what I am doing.  Of course, those
pictures are of the previous rounds of hatching.
Basically, I am playing musical birds.  The birds born from this hatch
today( will remain in the house this week.  Then, I will put them in the
cage in the greenhouse and the birds in the greenhouse will go to the
chicken tractor.  The birds that were in the tractor go to the old coop,
and the birds in the old coop will be merged with my 6 original birds in
the main coop.  The merging of the flocks *should* be okay (I am holding
my breath) because the younger birds will always have the numbers in
their favor, and it will happen often enough to keep things unsettled.
I'll remove the rooster from the coop on the first day, just to lessen
conflicts and to keep the birds even more off balance.
The only thing I don't have is a place to grow out the roosters if they
need more time.  They will have to remain with the flock.  Hopefully,
though all roosters will be 12+ weeks old and ready for the freezer by
the end of the process.  In this first group of 8, the free birds, there
is only one roo, Mr. Attitude, and he will probably meet the
refrigerator this coming weekend.
For the time being, I will keep my original rooster, but if I turn out a
really large, pretty one, then I will make the swap, but yeah, the roos
will be food, and maybe some of the hens, too.  But hens are going for
$10 and up here, so I may sell some.  Having 25 laying hens and chicken
in the freezer for a year is the goal...

21 living chicks in the box,  1 chick fatality while in
shell-unknown cause, 4 eggs show no sign of hatching, will allow one day
grace period. (81% hatch rate at present)

Greenhouse = Round 2 Hatch, b. 12/20/08 = 13, unknown division of sexes

Chicken Tractor = Round 1 Hatch, b. 11/24/08  = 20,  unknown division of
sexes

Old Coop = "Free" Birds = 7 hens and 1 rooster , b. 10/10/08 = 8

Main Coop = 5 hens and 1 rooster = 6

21 + 13 + 20 + 8 + 6 = 68 chickens

:)


If 34 go into the freezer, that gives us a bit less than one chicken a
week, but we get 2+ meals per bird, so we can probably stretch it to
chicken once a week... Then that would leave 34 for eggs, but I really
only want 25 for eggs, so that leaves 9 birds to sell.  Even at $8/bird,
the sale of those birds makes this a profitable operation as that pays
for electricity and feed.  I believe I can get $10 per bird, though,
maybe even $12 or $15 if the economy gets worse.  OR, I could put those
additional 9 in the freezer making the meat total 43 birds.  I did not
quite reach my goal of 50 birds in the freezer, but the results aren't
bad and I can still call this hatching project a success.

Bev

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not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius
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world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone
are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve
the problems of the human race"

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