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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Lynn, I think ,before, I have said that I worked for politicians at a 
different point in my life.  They were all Democrats.  I am one of the people 
who completely changed my views on the government, politics, and the 
progression of our society and culture suring the 1990s and the Ruby Ridge 
and Waco  insanities.

  Most, at the time, would have thought that I would have been the 'last' 
person to 'side' with the Weavers or the cultists at Waco.  But, something 
'clicked' with me. I saw something wicked this way coming.  I started 
reading, and am ratioanl enough to ferret out the conspiracy pages from the 
real libertaians and to notice thast 'sometimes' they become the same.  

I learned , over time, that there is nothing inherently good in gov't and 
that the smaller the size of gov't the more accountable it is to its 
constituents and the larger corrolary that large gov't loses all 
accountability. 

 We are entering that point whre large money, and I don't mean people worth a 
couple of million, that is no longer rich, I mean truly big  and or "old" 
money;  when 'that' group and government become married, then facism becomes 
real.  Not sillies about someone's grandfather being friends with a banker in 
Italy in the thirties. 

 I mean lookeing at the window and seeing grown american men in  helmets, 
bulletproof vests and full auto and carrying assault rifles - safeties off-- 
becuase you had the gall to milk a cow and sell the milk without a g-d d*mn 
government stamp......................................

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--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Food Safety
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 7:54 AM
> >  Another wild idea, could people incorporate as a
> "commune" or "order" , 
> > even if they don't live on the same land ?  Like
> "the farm" in TN, or "The 
> > Mennonites, etc", but just not live together? 
> That's all rhetorical and 
> > ridiculous but, that is what statist intrusion leads
> one to do to try and 
> > achieve what should >be most
> simple...................
> 
> Wouldn't that mean they would have to co-own the farm?
> No one around here is 
> THAT interested in local food.
> 
> The Powers That Be don't like that sort of thing. They
> obviously had some 
> kind of grudge against that family in Ohio...it IS a real
> story; I found the 
> original newspaper version:
> http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2008/12/03/news/mj309059.txt
> 
> They were arrested for operating a 'retail food
> establishment'  without a 
> license. According to Ohio code 3717.01:
> (C) “Retail food establishment” means a premises or
> part of a premises where 
> food is stored, processed, prepared, manufactured, or
> otherwise held or 
> handled for retail sale. Except when expressly provided
> otherwise, “retail 
> food establishment” includes a mobile retail food
> establishment, seasonal 
> retail food establishment, and temporary retail food
> establishment.
> 
> Maybe they violated that (I suspect, though, that a Coop
> isn't the same as 
> 'retail sale'), but is that a cause for being held
> at gunpoint and having 
> every thing confiscated? You'd think they were a meth
> lab, not an organic 
> food coop. Perhaps both are equally threatening to the
> Powers that Be.
> 
> Lynn Wigglesworth 
> 
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