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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

That is actually a very independent libertarian minded stement, Ray.  Though, 
I do in principle think that there should be some atonement; everything that 
we have done since the 1960s has made the plight of the black folk worse.  
The black folk who have achieved are the ones who quit listening to the race 
hustlers.

  The Indians are different.  We had a natural right to conquer the country, 
I suppose.  All people have conquered other peoples in one way or the other, 
over time.  But, as a gov't we made 'Treaties".  The Constitution says that 
we must honor those "Treaties".  Have you ever been to a reservation (not a 
flashy , gaudy Casino -- a real reservation).  I'd be p*ssed if I was an 
Indian....
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--- On Thu, 12/4/08, rayzentz AT aim.com <rayzentz AT aim.com> wrote:

> From: rayzentz AT aim.com <rayzentz AT aim.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Who attacked whom? (was: It's almost over)
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:50 PM
> Sorry. I am not responsible for the actions of my
> predecessors, and thus have nothing for which I am required
> to atone.
> 
> Your argument has been used many times, in attempts to take
> from others. It is no more valid when voiced by you, than
> when voiced by other Apologists.
> 
> Ray
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 1:37 pm
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Who attacked whom? (was: It's
> almost over)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 1:32 PM, EarthNSky wrote:
> >
> > Bin Laden declared war on the US in 1996.
> > Al Qaeda declared war on us in 1998.
> 
> So, they were upfront about their positions and intentions.
> 
> That is more honorable than how our predecessors treated
> native  
> Americans and how our prior countrymen treated the black
> race until  
> quite recently.
> 
> We have much to atone for.
> 
> 
> 
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