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  • From: "Jeanne Driese" <jeanne13 AT earthlink.net>
  • To: <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>, <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] SE PA going to identifiablenon-cashsmartcardsfortransporta...
  • Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:31:04 -0500

There are still a couple of dairy farms around here and if they have bulls,
they do not produce milk, so are of no use to the dairy operation so we can
buy them for about the same.
Jeanne
tnhillwoman
North East TN zone 6
----- Original Message -----
From: bob ford
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] SE PA going to
identifiablenon-cashsmartcardsfortransporta...


I have a hard time imagining calfs being sold for 10 bucks each. You can't
buy two packs of smokes for ten bucks. Maybe I will raise one
cow.........bobford

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--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
wrote:

> From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] SE PA going to identifiable
non-cashsmartcardsfortransporta...
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 12:07 PM
> > >Once they are butchered, I can
> > net over $1000/bull in beef sales. That's the
> difference between regular
> > economics and old-style 'pastoral
> economics'...money I didn't spend is not a
> > loss to me.
> >
>
> And it's the difference between the agribusiness model
> and the pastoral or
> homestead model.
>
> Let me round the numbers for convenience's sake and say
> Lynn has $90 worth of
> hay along with the $10 purchase price. That's $100 at
> risk. Let's suppose
> over X period of time she has ten of these bulls. If one
> sickens and dies late
> in the operation (rare, since farm animals that are going
> to die generally
> die young, guess the never heard that James Taylor song).
> That's still $1000 at
> risk grossing $9000.
>
> So what if one is lost??
>
> But in the agribusiness where feed, labor, medicine,
> interest on the loans
> totals $950 and you are hoping to get $50 out of the deal,
> in a likewise unit of
> 10 bulls, the loss of one means you are $500 in the hole on
> the operation.
>
> The difference in the models is vast.
>
>
>
> James
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