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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
  • To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] SE PA going to identifiablenon-cashsmartcardsfortransporta...
  • Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:50:52 -0800 (PST)

So, other than bottle feeding them for the first few weeks, you just let them
free range and have a few bails of hay. And, you have to have them castrated
at some point. That's all there is to it. I thought you said being a cattle
farmer was hard? .............bobford


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--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] SE PA going to
> identifiablenon-cashsmartcardsfortransporta...
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 12:41 PM
> These are newborn bull calves. They are useless at a dairy.
> The farmer has
> to pay $10 to have them hauled to the auction, where he
> MIGHT get $10 for
> them, if they don't die on the way...he'd much
> rather have me come and pick
> them up and give him $10, and do something useful with
> them. Everybody is
> happy, including the calves, who get a good home. It is
> odd; A $10 bull
> calf, butchered at 9-10 months, will produce 300-400 pounds
> of meat. A baby
> lamb, who needs the same care and will produce less than 50
> pounds of meat
> when it's butchered, costs a lot more around
> here....$50-75. Go figure.
>
> The calves have to be fed, and if you don't have a cow
> to nurse them, they
> need to be bottle-fed. It's still a good deal; $50
> worth of milk replacer
> will get them started, by then they can survive on pasture.
> At one point I
> had 5 calves, all bottle-fed 3 times a day. That kept me
> jumping, and makes
> the calves into total ninnies...it's cute being
> affectionately butted when
> they are little; not so cute when they are 900 pounds with
> horns. It's much
> easier to just get as many calves as the cows will
> adopt...they do a much
> better job than me raising calves, anyway.
>
> Lynn Wigglesworth
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bob ford" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] SE PA going to
> identifiablenon-cashsmartcardsfortransporta...
>
>
> >I have a hard time imagining calfs being sold for 10
> bucks each. You can't
> >buy two packs of smokes for ten bucks. Maybe I will
> raise one
> >cow.........bobford
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com
> <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com
> <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] SE PA going to
> identifiable
> >> non-cashsmartcardsfortransporta...
> >> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 12:07 PM
> >> > >Once they are butchered, I can
> >> > net over $1000/bull in beef sales. That's
> the
> >> difference between regular
> >> > economics and old-style 'pastoral
> >> economics'...money I didn't spend is not a
> >> > loss to me.
> >> >
> >>
> >> And it's the difference between the
> agribusiness model
> >> and the pastoral or
> >> homestead model.
> >>
> >> Let me round the numbers for convenience's
> sake and say
> >> Lynn has $90 worth of
> >> hay along with the $10 purchase price. That's
> $100 at
> >> risk. Let's suppose
> >> over X period of time she has ten of these bulls.
> If one
> >> sickens and dies late
> >> in the operation (rare, since farm animals that
> are going
> >> to die generally
> >> die young, guess the never heard that James Taylor
> song).
> >> That's still $1000 at
> >> risk grossing $9000.
> >>
> >> So what if one is lost??
> >>
> >> But in the agribusiness where feed, labor,
> medicine,
> >> interest on the loans
> >> totals $950 and you are hoping to get $50 out of
> the deal,
> >> in a likewise unit of
> >> 10 bulls, the loss of one means you are $500 in
> the hole on
> >> the operation.
> >>
> >> The difference in the models is vast.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> James
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