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Thank you for supplying the definition. I, for one, didn't know the meaning 
of the word, and I am sure that others probably didn't either. Now, can you 
tell me, for certain,?which one of the possible meanings you cited, BO meant?

<cricket sounds>

I thought not. Therein lies the problem. Nobody does, except BO, and he, like 
the Bush Beans dog, "ain't tellin".

Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 5:48 am
Subject: Re: [Homestead] More to it; was RE: Welcome to the United Socialist 
States



"Security" has a lot of meanings:
1: the quality or state of being secure: as a: freedom from danger : safety 
b: freedom from fear or anxiety c: freedom from the prospect of being laid 
off <job security>
(Merriam-Webster)

Lynn Wigglesworth
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bob ford" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] More to it;was RE: Welcome to the United Socialist 
States


> Rebecca, most of us don't fear that BO desires his own brownshirts.  But 
> he did, in fact, say what is reported, he said.  A  civilian national 
> security force is 'not' in the description of the peace corps nor in a new 
> super-charged Americorps, except maybe in BO projections.
>
>  Why did he say "civilian security force" rather than the more innoucuos 
> descriptors available?  Had George Bush said said something about a 
> "national civilian security force" , smart leftists like Naomi Wolf & 
> Arianna Huffington would have been wetting themselves.  He said, in fact, 
> exactly what it is reported he said.  Always question authority, whether, 
> or not, you have supported that authority ....................bobford
>
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> --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Rebecca Lewinski <rebas_own AT hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Rebecca Lewinski <rebas_own AT hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Homestead] More to it; was RE: Welcome to the United Socialist 
>> States
>> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:31 PM
>> Rebecca here... I was checking the blog of a favorite radio
>> talkshow host in the Seattle area, and then popped over here
>> to see that the same subject was being discussed.  Click the
>> first link to hear the statement that is causing the ruckus,
>> then click the second to hear the entire segment.  Took the
>> sinister out of it for me, but maybe I'm just naive.
>>
>> Most people in the area think of Dave Ross as being as
>> being right down the middle of the road, though he does lean
>> a bit to the left on many issues. Here's the blog
>> excerpt from The Dave Ross Show, KIRO 710 am--he makes a
>> good point in the use of technology and creative editing to
>> produce propaganda:
>>
>> Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 1:44 pm
>>
>> Congressman Moronized by You Tube?
>> Monday,
>> Georgia Republican congressman Paul Broun said he was
>> worried about
>> Barack Obama's promise to set up a "civilian
>> national security force."
>> That, said the congressman, is "exactly what Hitler
>> did in Nazi
>> Germany..."
>> The only excuse for this statement I can come up with is
>> that Rep
>> Broun saw this widely circulated YouTube excerpt of a
>> speech made in
>> Colorado Springs on July 2:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igDoHZ0hVUY
>> He isn't alone:  more than a million people have seen
>> it -- doctored in various ways.
>> Maybe Rep Broun was in a time crunch, but it wouldn't
>> have been that
>> hard to find what came before the excerpt that's been
>> getting all the
>> play:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0oxqV_k2Gs
>> As for the Tubers who have edited this speech to remove the
>> fact
>> that Obama was talking about the CCC and the Peace Corps,
>> and who imply
>> that this type of national service is similar to the
>> Gestapo -- they
>> slander every American who served their country through
>> these
>> organizations.
>> I use this rule of thumb: the truth of a video is directly
>> proportional to its length, and inversely proportional to
>> the number of
>> edits.
>> But I acknowledge that in a free country, you have the
>> right to try
>> to moronize as many people as technology permits, and
>> YouTube is making
>> it easier than ever.****************************
>>
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