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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] More to it; was RE: Welcome to the United Socialist States
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:35:22 -0800 (PST)

Rebecca, most of us don't fear that BO desires his own brownshirts. But he
did, in fact, say what is reported, he said. A civilian national security
force is 'not' in the description of the peace corps nor in a new
super-charged Americorps, except maybe in BO projections.

Why did he say "civilian security force" rather than the more innoucuos
descriptors available? Had George Bush said said something about a "national
civilian security force" , smart leftists like Naomi Wolf & Arianna
Huffington would have been wetting themselves. He said, in fact, exactly
what it is reported he said. Always question authority, whether, or not, you
have supported that authority ....................bobford


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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Rebecca Lewinski <rebas_own AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Rebecca Lewinski <rebas_own AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Homestead] More to it; was RE: Welcome to the United Socialist
> States
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:31 PM
> Rebecca here... I was checking the blog of a favorite radio
> talkshow host in the Seattle area, and then popped over here
> to see that the same subject was being discussed. Click the
> first link to hear the statement that is causing the ruckus,
> then click the second to hear the entire segment. Took the
> sinister out of it for me, but maybe I'm just naive.
>
> Most people in the area think of Dave Ross as being as
> being right down the middle of the road, though he does lean
> a bit to the left on many issues. Here's the blog
> excerpt from The Dave Ross Show, KIRO 710 am--he makes a
> good point in the use of technology and creative editing to
> produce propaganda:
>
> Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 1:44 pm
>
> Congressman Moronized by You Tube?
> Monday,
> Georgia Republican congressman Paul Broun said he was
> worried about
> Barack Obama's promise to set up a "civilian
> national security force."
> That, said the congressman, is "exactly what Hitler
> did in Nazi
> Germany..."
> The only excuse for this statement I can come up with is
> that Rep
> Broun saw this widely circulated YouTube excerpt of a
> speech made in
> Colorado Springs on July 2:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igDoHZ0hVUY
> He isn't alone: more than a million people have seen
> it -- doctored in various ways.
> Maybe Rep Broun was in a time crunch, but it wouldn't
> have been that
> hard to find what came before the excerpt that's been
> getting all the
> play:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0oxqV_k2Gs
> As for the Tubers who have edited this speech to remove the
> fact
> that Obama was talking about the CCC and the Peace Corps,
> and who imply
> that this type of national service is similar to the
> Gestapo -- they
> slander every American who served their country through
> these
> organizations.
> I use this rule of thumb: the truth of a video is directly
> proportional to its length, and inversely proportional to
> the number of
> edits.
> But I acknowledge that in a free country, you have the
> right to try
> to moronize as many people as technology permits, and
> YouTube is making
> it easier than ever.****************************
>
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