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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

I think your question was primarily rhetorical, but, when I moved my cursor 
over the page, at "definition of fascism" a "yahoo shortcut" lit up, so I 
read and now am pasting the definition.

"Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass 
movement) that considers individual and social interests subordinate to the 
interests of the state or party. Fascists seek to forge a type of national 
unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, racial, 
religious attributes. The key attribute is intolerance of others: other 
religions, languages, political views, economic systems, cultural practices, 
etc."

I swear I see the weeping, adoring crowds at BO's rallies more indicitave of 
a "mass movement" than anything I ever saw under GWB.  Bush was barely 
elected , either time (yes , I know almost half the country voted against 
Obama, also).

Bush was very 'tolerant' to everyone except maybe certain areas in the world 
of Islam.  He had more high ranking blacks and women in his cabinet than any 
president in history.  He is fluent in spanish and well versed in Hispanic 
customs (and their votes for him helped to elect him, twice).
. 
 He picked a vp with an openly homosexual daughter.  I didn't see him 'try to 
forge untity' on any of the characteristics in the definition, like religion. 
 The neo-cons are lead by AIPAC-involved Jews.  His own religion is 
Protestant Christianity (same as BO).

I'm not defending what has happened in his presidency.  He spent the treasury 
like a big spending democrat, and allowed the same investment bankers and 
hedge fund managers that BO is now hiring, to help run the economy in a 
terrible direction. And he handled the blasted war in a horrible fashion.

 But, he did not send armed civilian troops and tanks into the middle of 
nowhere - twice- to kill american citizens, because of their beliefs, Like 
the SOB Clinton.  And, I don't consider Clinton a Facist.  Maybe a criminal, 
but not a facist.

I think with these types of labels , some of us view them more strongly than 
others.  Neither Bush nor Clinton could be compared, by a reasonable person, 
to Mussolini, Stalin, or Hitler, all three who I could define as Facist.  To 
do so would be to undermine the scope of horror.

I'm as glad as you to see Bush gone.  I dis-agree that there is a good chance 
that we have replaced him with somweonw who will do better.  But, time will 
tell. 

 Don't to forget to tell about the horse stuff sometime when you have a bit 
of spare time........bobford


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--- On Fri, 11/7/08, paxamicus AT earthlink.net <paxamicus AT earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: paxamicus AT earthlink.net <paxamicus AT earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] The longest post yet-Anger
> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 10:32 AM
> Go find a definition of fascism and compare it to the
> administration and tell me I'm wrong.
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2008, at 12:27 PM, bob ford wrote:
> 
> > BO calls 'himself' and other black folk ,
> "black", & "african-american", he
> called his GM "white" .  I will call him, on this
> list and whereevr else I please ,exactly what I desire, just
> as 'you' did with GWB.
> > 
> >  I happen to be polite by nature, so it is doubtful
> that I will use unreasonable or irrational terms like
> "trash" or "common", or
> "Facist", or 'Nazi", but , who
> knows............bobford
> > 
> > 
> >
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> > 
> > --- On Fri, 11/7/08, paxamicus AT earthlink.net
> <paxamicus AT earthlink.net>
> >> 
> >> Maybe he doesn't call himself mulatto because
> no one
> >> should be
> >> referring to anyone by colour. Call him the guy
> with the
> >> great smile.
> >> The guy with the connections you want to know more
> about.
> >> The
> >> President-elect. The guy with the two cute kids.
> WHATEVER.
> >> Colour
> >> should have ZERO to do with it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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