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  • From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
  • To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Stealing an Election-Big Picture
  • Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:31:12 -0400


Bev; a while back, Bob posted a link to an article by Naomi Wolf. Her
argument was similar to yours, about government taking over, taking away
our rights, but she argues that Bush has already accomplished most of
it. I don't remember if this is the same article he posted, but she
makes the same points in it:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment

Lynn Wigglesworth

EarthNSky wrote:
> This is a lay it on the line post. As many of you know, I do believe
> that there are People Out There, call them whatever you want, that pull
> the strings and make things happen on a large scale. I think the
> chapter outlined below could set up global or at least regional
> consolidation of power for those people.
>
> bob ford wrote:
>> Bev, hoping this is just a drill, not the real thing, and who plans
>> to write a letter to her representative outlining these concerns, in
>> hopes that no one, Republican or Democrat, is ever able to do that.
>
>> Bev, wait until nezxt wed. am . Hpefully this will be clear cut, one
>> way or the other.
>
> I'll admit that this election has really affected me, but this coup idea
> is not new. Back in the 90's when I first got online, people were
> afraid Clinton would become a dictator through all of his executive
> orders...then it was Bush's turn to become the Evil King To Be..one of
> the reason's Hillary lost, as you know, is this lingering fear of
> Clinton dictatorship/Legacy. And like Lynn pointed out, as unpopular as
> Bush was, there was no impeachment there, so impeachment seems to be
> more of a political tool of embarrassment than a way of removing a
> president from office. There seems to be no recourse when a President
> is 'bad' and when the Senate refuses to impeach.
> So, in this election, or the next one, or the next one, or any election,
> really, a few people really could hijack the process while we dick
> around arguing about whether picture ID's disenfranchises voters or
> whether felons should vote or whether electronic voting is rigged or
> whether candidates can take 'laundered' money via gift cards, etc. etc...
> I really only use Obama as an example cuz he is the President du
> Jour and the current Democrats fill the conspiracy roles nicely.
> But think about it...What if..Pelosi, Frank, Reid, and maybe a few other
> top left leaning Democrats cooked up this scheme to elect a very liberal
> President who would transform America into some Super Democracy of
> their own warped thinking(I do believe that there are people out there,
> both left and right of center, who truly believe that America would be
> greater if...whatever..they may not have evil intentions at all, but
> they do have the intent to drastically and radically change this
> country.) So, the Democratic Cabal rework the plan, the Leftist Plan
> for America that has been tabled since the 60's, waiting for the day
> when Democrats controlled everything and then...In walks Obama, an IL
> State Senator, who is a poster child for American symbolism and
> history..biracial, single parent, moved around...yada yada, AND who is
> very left leaning, so left that the NP has endorsed him. He is perfect
> for the part.
> Suddenly, he has a speaking gig at a convention, and despite him saying
> one day that he was not ready to be president, starts a campaign to do
> just that a year later. With help from the upper eschelons of the Left
> Cabal of the Democratic party, he was groomed...
> Meanwhile, The Wicked Witch and her henchmen start cooking the books
> with Fannie and Freddie and the gang and setting the table so that
> America would bow down and welcome anyone who represented Change, and we
> would be so desperate for that that we would overlook any potential
> pitfall the candidate has. Money would be spend to put Dems in the House
> and Senate. Media would be bought and paid for, Bush digs his own grave
> and recall that Pelosi refused to lead the charge call for impeachment,
> just allowing the sore to fester, McCain and the rest of the Republicans
> can't find any unity and of course have to fight Bush's image, etc. etc.
> Republicanism is allowed to become a festering cancre in the minds of
> the public.
> To make sure things go the right way and to provide an excellent
> distraction, two things are done...the economy is intentionally tanked
> to make people desperate and give the candidate a talking point to
> distract from his past/associations, etc., AND groups like ACORN and
> other minions of the Party encourage fraud in registration and voting-
> the ground game, which has enough distance from the candidate that he
> cannot be held liable for their actions.
> So..Obama wins the election in a close-fought battle, close enough that
> a stink is made about fraud and there are multiple investigations across
> many states. Of course, no one holds Obama personally liable, but let's
> say they find he won due to fraud in several states and through the
> electoral process, was wrongly made president. Due to apathy, his
> popularity, and the fact that he has only been in office less than a
> year, he is given a pass, so to speak, and all is well, because by then,
> people will be getting their first checks from the administration,
> ..stimulus checks, tax rebates, or whatever it happens to be, the people
> will see Change in their pockets and be quiet.
> Over the next year, however, the tide begins to turn, and for whatever
> reason, he begins to loose popular support. Congress is pushing
> legislation through, disenfranchising Republicans, who start complaining
> in their medium, talk radio and certain news outlets. To thwart this,
> the Fairness Doctrine is reinstated by the Cabal, and suddenly,
> freedom of speech is gone. Suddenly, groups like Homestead, where
> freedom of thought and freedom of speech are encouraged, are shut down.
> People demonstate and there are clashes between demonstrators. Joe the
> Assassin takes a shot at Obama or Pelosi or Biden, and
> suddenly, there is Marshall Law and weapons are confiscated. Chaos
> ensues. The few remaining Republicans call for calm and impeachment,
> but the Senate won't do it, and Elections for 2012 are canceled. Then,
> Obama becomes a dictator, maybe even a benevolent dictator, but the
> point is that the process, the magic of this country, is gone.
>
> That is some scenario, huh?
> Yes, it is fiction, but it would not be difficult for a few people to
> manipulate the country like that. I picked on Obama because, as you all
> know, I am not under the Obama spell, but the coup could just as easily
> have been made by the Righteous Right Republicans or some group that
> doesn't even exist right now.
>
> I just think we need a few more checks and balances in the way we elect
> our President, who is typically considered the Leader of the Free World.
> The current process seems to be too easily manipulated, and it would be
> child's play for the Powers That Be, who may have already tested the
> waters in past two elections in preparation for this one or the next one....
> I don't see any reason to wait until after the election to write. For
> all I know, some group somewhere has already got the wheels in motion,
> or maybe McCain wins then dies, and President Palin is the one who
> becomes a dictator, after all, she *is* the one guilty of abuse of power...
> So, I dunno. We have a lot of holes to plug or this ship's going
> down. The only stopgap I see to a scenario like this is the military
> staging it's own coup on the Leadership.
>
> Bev
>
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