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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Sage, I don't know the specifics of the NAIS stuff, like Lynn does.  I think 
pretty much everything you wrote is correct , plus more.  You know a lot 
about plants, but I know, I don't like all of this homeland s*curity/p*triot 
act stuff; plants, animals, people , I don't care.

  How did you protect plants before 9 11 ?  I remember, as a kid, coming out 
west on vacation , and being stopped and asked if we had fruits or 
vegetables, but nobody asked for daddy's id, or searched the car.  'just 
asked , and waved us on.  'simpler times .....bobf

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--- On Wed, 10/29/08, eureka AT hctc.net <eureka AT hctc.net> wrote:

> From: eureka AT hctc.net <eureka AT hctc.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] NAIS, APHIS Over 50% Preemises registerd in 13 
> states & Customss / APHIS
> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 1:14 PM
> Bob, you are right, I try to stay out of political talk in 
> general as I'm on the list to glean homesteading 
> knowledge.
> 
>  From a food standpoint, and an egg farmer, I'm very
> aware 
> of NAIS and how it's pushing small farmers around. But
> my 
> understanding of APHIS is limited, from my friend in plant 
> pathology research, not my field. Maybe I'm naive, and 
> only looking at botanical proctection from the sense of 
> keeping plant disease and insects out of the country. I 
> suppose Homeland Security could involve the feeding of 
> people, but then that should require agronomists.
> 
> I see all of this largely driven by corporate greed of the 
> Monsantos who have undoubtedly benefitted from NAIS and 
> eight years of Bush politics. The last I'd heard the
> NAIS 
> thing was dead. What happened?
> 
> --Sage
> 
> 
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:33:54 -0700 (PDT)
>   bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:
> > You normally don't participate in our political 
> >discussions , Sage.  So, I'll let Lynn , or someone
> else, 
> >give you a non-political reason the gov't needs,
> for 
> >supposed security reason, to identify, and track 
> >preactically every animate and inanimate object in the 
> >world, including 'me' .
> > 
> > I think centralized gov';t simply ,always, demands
> more 
> >and more control.  But, I think Lynn is fairly familiar
> , 
> >atleast with the NAIS stuff __ Now both are kind of
> being 
> >combined ....bobford