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I might add that most of my fellow mormons think I'm a bit nuts...   ;-)

Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 8:24 am
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Plant life ethics --for real



Very interesting..
thanks Sage, that sounds like a book I should find.
As to my post, I responded to Bob's, and Ray tagged onto mine.
I really don't see any conflict from what I believe and what you and 
Ray
believe.  I do know that plants communicate through a collective mind 
of
sorts.  I hadn't heard about training plants to open doors, I'll have 
to
look into that.

Bev

eureka AT hctc.net wrote:
> Bev,
>
> Sorry, I don't think I saw your initial post, I came in on
> Bob's and then read Ray's. I'll have to go back and look
> for yours to see what you said.
>
> As for egos, the people I've studied with don't recognize
> an individual plant ego, but more of a collective
> consciousness within a genus/species. So, they would say
> that all roses have one conscious mind, thistles another.
> I think individual plants can have personality, but from a
> life purpose standpoint they are working together from a
> collective.
>
> Stephen Harrod Buhner visited with many medicine men
> around the world in indigenous tribes and asked them how
> they new a certain plant was good for a certain ailment.
> They all said "the plants told me". Some of this goes back
> to the doctrine of signatures. For instance, most of the
> plants that treat cardiovascular problems are
> red-flowering, sedative plants are blue flowering, urinary
> tract yellow flowering, etc. By reading their form and
> noting where they grow you learn more about particular
> uses.
>
> Some of his interesting studies included how keystone
> plants "call" other plants into an ecosystem. Ironwood is
> one of those plants that sets up first and changes the
> environment and then the other desert plants follow. In
> college we called them pioneer and successional plants but
> we never got into the mechanics of how it happens. He also
> talks about the intelligence of plants as the original
> "chemical factories" with the ability to produce one
> substance in the day to attract one kind of pollinator,
> and another by night to attract a different one. When you
> start looking at these processes you begin to see plants
> do make choices.
>
> If you read Tompkins you will remember odd experiements
> where philodendrons were supposedly trained to open garage
> doors, etc. But Buhner's work is more accessible for the
> scientific mind and bridges the gap between it and what
> might be considered more esoteric. I do recommend the
> book.


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