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[Bill Jones <billj AT harborside.com>]

Once again you seem to have run out of anything factual.  The only 
reason I have to beat it into the ground with you is just that you seem 
to require simpler and simpler illustrations.

I'll take the first paragraph as your concession.  I conclude from your 
post that there are plenty of other ways to save us some money by 
getting tough with runaway government employees' unions.

As for your other recent post, I really don't see why you object to 
someone keeping guinea pigs.  It's really irrational, Lynda.

Anyway, I though CR was the one closest to you.  Is it Yreka now?  Pick 
any college you like, and you'll see the same arithmetic and algebra 
courses.

Lynda wrote:

> Welcome to the world of the average high school teacher that has been around 
> for a few years.  The California arm of the NEA has about guaranteed they 
> will make that kind of money too in California!
>
> It has nothing to do with the colleges and everything to do with the unions 
> starting at the lowest levels.
>
> It also has nothing to do with the current conversation, only your state of 
> mind.  And your continual harping on it only shows your lack of ability to 
> think beyond certain worn groves in your little crainium!  You get stuck in 
> a think grove and that's it.  Someone needs to smack you up long side the 
> head and get you to think about something new!  You repeat over and over and 
> over the same old things.  We all know exactly what you are going to say 
> about any topic.  Boring, boring, boring! Get a life, Bill!
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Jones" <billj AT harborside.com>
> To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] The GOP on government spending: Borrow 'til the 
> Chinese own us!
>
>
>  
>
> > Sorry, I was a little hasty there.
> >
> > The question is whether it's appropriate to insist that only highly-paid
> > masters' degree holders be allowed to teach, as the teachers' "union"
> > has swung it.  Given that it really is college material, then that would
> > be fine.  I'd like to see calculus being taught only by people with
> > advanced degrees.  But why are people earning $60K to teach arithmetic?
> > I'll bet I could find a dedicated arithmetic teacher for my own kids for
> > a lot less.  Why must the government waste money, just so that competent
> > people can be locked out of a job?
> >
> > Sorry, I can't parse the second sentence at all.  Do you mean BA
> > granting institutions do have 2/3 of their units in actual college
> > credit courses?  Why, of course: much more, even.  You would take a
> > difficult upper-division course, and spend money on it, if it didn't
> > contribute to your earning the degree?  Colleges are afraid to offer
> > courses that might not be too popular, because of costs, and non-credit
> > would certainly make them unpopular.  (Don't confuse non-credit courses
> > with elective courses; an elective course can provide BA units without
> > being specifically required for a particular degree.)
> >
> > Lynda wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> > > Bill, CC's are for AA/AS degrees, they aren't meant to have classes that
> > > contribute to a BA degree.  Colleges that do have BA degrees don't have 
> > > 2/3
> > > of their classes not contibuting to BA degrees.  Get your head out of a
> > > space that never sees daylight.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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