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- From: "Dieter Mitternacht" <dieter.mitternacht AT teol.lu.se>
- To: "Corpus-Paul" <corpus-paul AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?
- Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:21:28 +0100
Title: RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?
Dear Harold
I wrote:
Once this reading of the schema of Gal 3 is
entertained, doesn't that make the discussion of whether "until" is temporary or
timeless almost superfluous?
You replied: "It is not superfluous but a doctrinal issue
important to the way people live their lives. Believers are not under the law, as Galatians itself says:..." Then you list a number of
passages.
My response:
Every passage you
list demands detailed treatment and by just listing them you will not convince
me, since I also have read them before. Especially the allegory in ch 4
demands very careful attention. Let me
also emphasize that I am not concerned with doctrinal issues or "revealed
truths" but with plausible readings of texts in their original communication
situations, which are 2000 years apart from us. If what appears to be the
most plausible reading should prove conflicting with reformation (or
whatever else) doctrine, so be it. On the other hand I welcome criticism of
my readings and will consider it on the basis of the same
principle.
Let me pick 2:19 and 3:10 from your list for some
comments. I agree that these passages seem to
complement each other and also tie in with 3:19-20a. And I would like to make two points. First, having written these
things Paul still asserts that the law is not opposed to the promises of God.
Whatever else that may mean I think it does
mean that for Paul there is no opposition between promise and
law. Rather the resurrection of Christ marks the beginning of
the Messianic age with a new level of Spirit distribution, from which both
Jews (in their submission to the law and Christ) and Gentiles (in their
submission to Christ) may benefit. 3:23 I
think shows that Paul considers the distribution of the Spirit to be a positive
event for both Jews and Gentiles. The battle
between sarx and law has turned, Paul would argue I think, on a broad scale
in favor of compliance through the Spirit (ch 5:13ff). It is also the initial
Spirit experiences that he refers to in 3:1-5.
Second. your quote of Gal 2:19 continues with
Paul's assertion that he had been crucified with Christ, which I think is an
assertion that includes experiences of bodily suffering. If you allow me to
include Phil 2 and 3, I think we can see that, for Paul, participation
in Christ's death and resurrection is very real. It is a matter of being
prepared and even desiring (Phil 3:10) the bodily sufferings of Christ for
themselves, and thus of sharing the faithfulness of Christ (Phil
2:5ff).
Maybe the point I am trying to make becomes
clearer if I add what I believe to be the core issue in Galatia. The desire for circumcision among Gentile disciples of Christ
in Galatia is not based on a sense of incomplete soteriology, i.e. wanting to
secure a righteous standing before God with the addition of works of the
law. Rather, the wish for circumcision originates from the fact that
- in an Anatolian environment -being a Gentile follower of Christ had
turned out to be much more complicated than being a Jewish follower
of Christ. What Paul is opposing is the desire to compromise the calling to
follow in the footsteps of the crucified Christ.
Dieter Mitternacht
Centre for Theology and Religious Studies
LUND UNIVERSITY Allhelgona Kyrkogata 8 223 62 LUND SWEDEN Dieter.Mitternacht AT teol.lu.se http://www.teol.lu.se/nt/forskning/mitternacht.html _______________________________________________ Corpus-Paul mailing list Corpus-Paul AT lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/corpus-paul |
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?
, (continued)
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Jim West, 01/12/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Mark D. Nanos, 01/12/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Jim West, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Jim West, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Jim West, 01/12/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Mark D. Nanos, 01/12/2005
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RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Dieter Mitternacht, 01/13/2005
- RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Harold R. Holmyard III, 01/13/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Jeffrey B. Gibson, 01/13/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Dieter Mitternacht, 01/13/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Harold R. Holmyard III, 01/13/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Calvin McCain, 01/12/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Harold R. Holmyard III, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Mark D. Nanos, 01/13/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Dieter Mitternacht, 01/14/2005
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